Cameron MacLeodAug 16, 2025

A good* historical tour.

“The statistics are brutal. Fascist takeovers prevented after winning power democratically: zero. Average length of fascist rule once established: 31 years. Fascist regimes removed by voting: zero. Fascist regimes removed by asking nicely: zero. Most were removed by war or military coups, and tens of millions died in the process.”

https://medium.com/@carmitage/i-researched-every-attempt-to-stop-fascism-in-history-the-success-rate-is-0-a665e2e048a2

* for various versions of “good”, see replies for corrections and context that some people feel is lacking. They sent lots of comments to me but zero to the author?

Show threadCameron MacLeodAug 16, 2025

“The pattern is so consistent it’s almost funny if it weren’t so terrifying. Every single time it goes like this: Conservatives panic about socialism or progressives or whatever. They ally with fascists as the “lesser evil.” Fascists take power. Fascists immediately purge anyone who stands in their way. Then it’s 30–50 years of dictatorship. This happened in Germany, Italy, Spain, Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Greece, Portugal, Croatia, Romania, and Hungary.”

https://medium.com/@carmitage/i-researched-every-attempt-to-stop-fascism-in-history-the-success-rate-is-0-a665e2e048a2

Show threadGeoff BernerAug 17, 2025
@c_9 this is untrue. It's neoliberal doomerism. Don't spread it.
Show threadCameron MacLeodAug 17, 2025
@Geoffberner If you have data to share about what’s wrong, please feel free to share. Also feel free to use your social media account in the way you prefer. Don’t give strangers orders.
Show threadGeoff Berner
@c_9 Bolsanaro is a fascist. The ex-President of Korea is a fascist. That's just off the top of my head. These people can be beaten.
Aug 17, 2025 at 7:03pmWeb
Show threadGeoff BernerAug 17, 2025
@c_9 also, it's a fundamental misunderstanding of what we're fighting against. We're against fascist laws and actions, like UK Labour's proscription of Palestine Action, like Obama's forced deportations. Like Carney's public ass-kissing of Trump. States operate on a spectrum of fascism, and our job is to yank the needle back to the left, whatever banker, banker's friend, general or whoever is running the place.