somerandompersonTuta posted a #deGoogle ing guide.
alkI personally recommend kagi instead of Google search. I’ve tried most of the ones in this list and kagi gives the best results, and consistently too.
Kagi also supports bangs, custom bangs, quick bangs, and fine style control.
Same, I know people are skeptical about paying for search, but you pay one way or the other for all searches. Being able to tweak my own page to rank to hide sites that are trash is pretty nice.
My problem with that is that my payment method is tied to one account that all of my searches go through, making it less anonymous. Even if they don’t save the payment method, they know that all queries are coming from one account, which can potentially be used to track someone.
Chloé 🥕kagi translate is also the best translation service ive used so far. better than google translate, even
Oh I haven’t actually tried that part of it, thanks for the tip.
LukeThis list is… fine, but unfortunately missing a number of good FOSS alternatives. Still, it’s good info for most of these categories.
Having said that, it’s eternally frustrating that infographics like these so often don’t recommend actual alternatives for YouTube specifically. It’s always just “keep using YouTube, but with these apps instead” which, that’s “fine”, but not exactly degoogling. It’s not even really a step towards degoogling, because you’re still tied to watching content from Google, so when that frontend stops functioning, you’re highly tempted to go back to using Google’s YouTube apps.
FrostyPolicyAlso Aurora store. It’s just a front-end to play store. One should also ditch all chromium based browsers for couple of reasons
ORbituaryIt gets people out the door. They can refine later.
Impressive contribution. Listing all that’s wrong while offering zero alternatives.
You want me to provide an infographic of my own in order to make a minor critique of this one? That seems like a silly expectation to have to begin with, but also, you’re commenting in a community that has many many threads with actual Google alternatives discussed.
I feel like they did that with Youtube because there really aren’t any relevant alternatives. I mean there are alternatives but they’re really pretty small and niche so far.
You’re right, but also those alternatives will remain small and niche for longer the more people are not being directed to them as real alternatives.
There are creators slowly migrating their content to Peertube, for example. It would be nice for lists like this to be recommending that alternative more so those creators see interest rising there.
d-RLY?GrayJay is pretty good option, it does have YT but also has plug-ins for other services. So it could be good for getting results if searching for something that will show up in YT that the creator also uploaded to other sites, while still having the option to watch if not. Also has built-in support for SponsorBlock and DeArrow for the things that are only on YT (and can opt to sign into or stay signed out of YT account). PeerTube is still a mess though. Not able (or at least I don’t know how) to pick your instance to sign into and doesn’t seem to allow for adding to the pool of peers to help upload while watching. But I don’t think even the phone apps that specifically are for PT do that/have the option. Would be nice to be able to do that if on WiFi at least.
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Couple of additions:
- translate -> deepL (AI based with a free tier (no account required))
- drive -> Filen (Zero knowledge, E2EE)
- search -> Kagi (paid), or one of the listed
Also check the Fossify apps.
The main reason why people use google maps is the fact it has reviews included.
Other navigation apps don’t offer this convenient feature.
The open/close times, photos, and real-time crowd report in Google Maps make it the hardest Google service to completely replace.
rnerclei can see open/close times on CoMaps too
i guess it’s available on all osm apps
It has a field for it, but I’ve found it to be missing the data for a lot of places compared to Google. This probably varies by city so maybe it’s just bad luck for me.
I try to update this in OSM every time I find information missing. Its like playing pokemon - gotta catch them all! ;)
NovalingJust made my first map contribution yesterday after I went to a business that wasn’t marked on the map and it’s lit a fire in me to mark more. Too bad I don’t go to new places often…
The open times are easy to contribute with the StreetComplete app.
OSMand has a Street View type of thing called Mapillary.
Yeah traffic seems like it’s going to be tricky for any open source project. CoMaps claims they are working on it.
I’m not a fan that Mapillary is ran by Meta though. SK it’s not a project I’m comfortable contributing or using sadly. I know storing such a large library of images isn’t an easy task, so I I’m not sure what the answer would be.
Mapy.com does!
Evil KittyGreat recommendations, for YouTube I recommend taking a look at peertube and also, while this is not really a YouTube alternative, take a look at fmhy.net they have many links for tv shows, anime, movies, books, educational videos, documentaries, etc… Great tool :3
Recommending Brave or any other Chromium browser as an alternative for Chrome is a big no no for me.
Also, don’t use Organic Maps, use CoMaps
What’s the issue with OrganicMaps?
Most of the community contributors forked it as CoMaps recently. You can read why they started this project here.
I was not aware of this shit. Sneaky little fucks. I’ve been using OSMAnd~ for over 3 years now. Is this being affected as well? I did j stall comps a few days ago to test it (I’m liking it so far). Any suggestions?
No, osmand is not affected, it is not related with organic in anyway.
Damn, so one of the founders still has closed source code running on Organic Maps. Unbelievable.
I’ll be switching immediately. Thanks for sharing.
The TL;DR is that while organic maps is open source the people maintaining it are running it as a for profit company.
Comaps is a fork that insists on being a nonprofit
Why am I the only one using FOSS browser?
There’s a browser called FOSS?
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M137How is it that all these lists are always kinda bad? They always miss some obvious good alternatives or have ones that shouldn’t be there. I’ve seen so many posted and not a single one has been without issues. And these are not subjective things I’m referencing, I’d have no issue with that, they just always seem to be made by someone who has very shallow and uninformed knowledge about the alternatives.
My main issue here is Kagi missing from search, and Proton and Brave being part of any of the recommendations.
Whats the issue with proton?
CEO had a weird remark about a usa republican politician, people didn’t like to find out that some of their devs use AI coding assistants and then they attempted (and failed spectacularly) to remove its traces from their github repositories, and many don’t like that they launched a free LLM service.
I don’t know if I agree with the first one. I don’t know what to make of it, but I certainly keep that in mind.
I don’t care that much about the copilot configs in the repo, because I think it can be used kind of responsibility (relatively to the environment, not, though), but it’s extremely suspicious how they handled it.
the third is something I don’t agree with completely either. are we also hating duckduckgo for having duck.ai , or is it only proton? people say marketing it as encrypted is a scam. sure the queries cannot be end to end encrypted, but the storage of former chats can. did they market it as an E2EE service, without specifying which part is like that?
Tuta is a direct competitor to Proton. They would get more flak for excluding it then including it. Better to have it in and let people discuss Proton’s issues in the comments.
SteveI’ve used Nootsnook, Joplin, and Standard Notes.
None are super simple “Digital Post-it notes”. They’re all trying to be full notebook replacements, with lots of bigger features.
I’ve never actually seen a real Google Keep replacement. I remember one, but it was a local only android app. That doesn’t work for me. I need shareable Post-its.
quillpad? it says it has experimental nextcloud syncing support, that could be used to share it. or do you rather want a centralized service?
A Centralized service that supports E2E encryption would be ideal. I tried a few different replacements. Still haven’t found a good replacement.
kroldenLol proton and brave gtfo
Still better than Google Drive, Dropbox, iCloud, OneDrive, Microsoft Edge, and Google Chome.
Because of how it is
You think that Proton and Brave is on the same level of privacy as Google, Apple, and Microsoft?
The only alternative to Proton pass’s seamless integration with protonmail for untraceable aliases is self hosting bitwarden, making it accessible from outside your network, then either using a 3rd party email aliasing service or self-hosting email. So in other words, not viable or easy or secure for the vast majority of users except a small portion of power users.
I desperately want an alternative, but there just aren’t any. There are alternatives to each individual piece of Proton, but putting it all together and making it as seamless and easy as Proton does is nigh impossible.
steal_your_faceWhat’re untraceable aliases and what are they good for?
So with Proton pass, I create a new email alias for every online account. It will be formatted like [email protected]. I set the text on each to the name of the site I make it for.
If I get an email to one, it goes to my hidden “main” address, which I haven’t given out to a single person on earth, not even my wife. When I get an email, I can reply to it using the alias. The sender cannot ever see my main email.
This has a few benefits. One, nobody knows who I am. A website cannot link me to another site. If there’s a data leak, one single email address is leaked. I can easily delete that alias and make a new one. Similarly, if I EVER get a spam email, I know which alias it was sent to, so I know who leaked it, or who decided to send me spam. Again, I can delete it and the spam source is gone.
Unlike something like “[email protected]”, which does allow me to use different emails for each place, this is untraceable. You cannot find my main email by looking at an alias.
And finally, this is more anonymous than using your own domain, as you share the same domain as many other people.
When I use Proton pass the password manager, it can generate one of these aliases in about 1 second and ties it to that saved password for super easy log in. No other configuration requird. It just works. (you can use and create aliases without passwords if you want)
jevans ⁂I use addy.io with fastmail and bitwarden (not self hosted). I switched to that from protonmail+simplelogin+protonpass and get basically the same user experience. What am I missing that requires self hosting bitwarden?
I like the design, but a few suggestions:
You don’t need to cross the google services out. It is already in red indicating it is ‘bad’. The replacements with a green background indicated those are ‘good’
Make a ‘table of contents’ with an enumerated list of the services. The numbers on the list should be repeated next to their coresponding services.
In the ‘table of contents’ and the coresponding boxes, the google services headings should be larger. They are after all headings.
All of these suggestions are for readability and easy of use. 2 and 3 in particular are for people looking for a particular thing. Say I’ve already replaced gmail but not google drive. If your goal is just to replace google drive skimming to just find google drive makes that harder.
Overall, this is the best one of these I’ve seen.
Anyone know why my keyboard keeps switching back to gboard? I have it disabled, but only gboard is supported on my razr 2nd display, so I’m guessing it keeps reverting because of that
What app for reminders? My Tasks app is too damn unreliable
I would gladly use a OSMand or OSM if there was a way to set Home. I’m sitting in my house, the dot or arrow is correctly located, but I cannot find anywhere to declare this as Home.
Also, if interested in a non-US fork of Firefox, give Floorp a gander.
I tried OSM. But the routes were not bad as if were just missing traffic data. They were bad as in " oh, you want to go north for 3 blocks on a road that does actually head north? OK, start by leading south, turn left twice and head north"
BunScientistI saw some weird routing from Open Street Maps and didn’t know why it was like that until I started using StreetComplete to help making the map better, I noticed some streets were marked as not paved (since they weren’t years ago) and the old data was still there, so the routing was trying to avoid those streets even if they were perfectly viable now. Updating that in StreetComplete fixed it.
My biggest issue with OSMand is that never works for long on GrapheneOS. Always memory tagging crash. They say they fix it and to download a specific version and it works till a new update then back to memory tagging crash.
The current nightly works right now but the Aurora version doesnt.
Erik L. Midtsveen 🏴🌈Tuta even recommends some Proton services, Tuta is truly based!