Cameron MacLeodAug 16, 2025

A good* historical tour.

“The statistics are brutal. Fascist takeovers prevented after winning power democratically: zero. Average length of fascist rule once established: 31 years. Fascist regimes removed by voting: zero. Fascist regimes removed by asking nicely: zero. Most were removed by war or military coups, and tens of millions died in the process.”

https://medium.com/@carmitage/i-researched-every-attempt-to-stop-fascism-in-history-the-success-rate-is-0-a665e2e048a2

* for various versions of “good”, see replies for corrections and context that some people feel is lacking. They sent lots of comments to me but zero to the author?

Show threadCameron MacLeodAug 16, 2025

“The pattern is so consistent it’s almost funny if it weren’t so terrifying. Every single time it goes like this: Conservatives panic about socialism or progressives or whatever. They ally with fascists as the “lesser evil.” Fascists take power. Fascists immediately purge anyone who stands in their way. Then it’s 30–50 years of dictatorship. This happened in Germany, Italy, Spain, Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Greece, Portugal, Croatia, Romania, and Hungary.”

https://medium.com/@carmitage/i-researched-every-attempt-to-stop-fascism-in-history-the-success-rate-is-0-a665e2e048a2

Show threadChantaruAug 16, 2025
@c_9 was it all with the same dictator for the whole run or did the dictator die and succesfully get replaced?
Show threadDavidAug 16, 2025

@chantaryu2 @c_9

In the case of Spain, Franco the dictator died and left the mechanisms to put a monarchy of thieves.

In Italy they hunged down the bastard on a petrol station.

And last, but not least, in Germany the coward shoot himself on the head.

Show threadChantaru
@DBG3D @c_9 my understanding was that once a dictator dies, it's very hard for another dictator to pick up the baton and keep going because it's a cult of personality. North Korea nothwithstanding because it's a dynasty and the sons pretend to be the incarnation of the original dictator.
Aug 16, 2025 at 12:06pmWeb
Show threadDavidAug 16, 2025

@chantaryu2 @c_9

No its not. Because you can have the second in command after the dictator replacing him. There are cases.

Show threadChantaruAug 16, 2025
@DBG3D @c_9 thank you for correcting my impression. This is bleak though.