@Strandjunker

The window closed when 11 million people who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 couldn’t be bothered to vote in 2024. Now everyone is up in arms because nobody bothered to read the writing on the wall that’s been there since 2016.

@HamonWry @Strandjunker

@benroyce is probably the best person to comment on this, but I'm not sure it's just that people "couldn't be bothered”. There was an epidemic of #ToxicIdealism spread perhaps primarily by the “G-n-c-d- Joe” brigade leading a non-trivial number to not vote as some sort of masochistic protest.

The left wing must, finally, learn the lesson:
Fight in the primaries, unite in the election

@mmalc @HamonWry @Strandjunker

It's rather weird still encountering people, as I have recently, who think "teaching Democrats a lesson" is more important than {gestures broadly}

It's also extremely entitled

That the bad effects of the Trump administration won't affect them

(Or, rather than entitlement, extremely fucking stupid to think it won't effect them.)

@benroyce @mmalc @HamonWry @Strandjunker I think it's much deeper than just idealism, having 2 choices and having to choose something you disagree with because the other option is... well, unacceptable is a rotten system.

We've seen how a two party system keeps shifting right. Eventually your options will be just far right or farther right.

@Sh41 @mmalc @HamonWry @Strandjunker

yes but you have cause and effect backwards

it's not "this shifts right, so i won't participate"

it's "i'm not participating" and then as a consequence, things shift right

it's a feedback loop that accelerates

the only solution is more participation

you're never going to get perfect, it will always suck in some ways

but if you hold your nose and participate you can iterate on that and proceed left

in fact, that's the only way it will ever happen

@Sh41 @mmalc @HamonWry @Strandjunker

100% no

clarification: i want 3rd parties

but to have them, we need ranked choice voting

currently in the usa we have an FPTP voting system

what that means is if we were to add a new 3rd left party, we divide the left, and we guarantee MAGA wins

we need ranked choice first. so we need to get candidates that support that

that has to come first. without that, we are guaranteeing failure

the left has to take over the democratic party

it is the only way

@benroyce @Sh41 @mmalc @HamonWry @Strandjunker

> we need ranked choice voting

False: see Israel. The country with the most parties in the world.