@pieceofthepie Very interesting! Thanks for sharing.
How has your experience been with moderation and fighting spam?
@pieceofthepie That's great! The comment section looks nice and fits well within the overall theme of your blog. I guess you can easily style that section in Remark42? I need to investigate this further; it looks promising.
By the way, do you have an RSS feed for your blog I can add to my reader? I love the stuff you write about.
@ilyess actually I think that's pretty much stock styling. It just happened to slot in well - but then I did make the theme so I was able to make adjustments.
There is an atom feed though I've not tested it in anger. It should be discoverable as its all tagged up appropriately.
@cloudthethings That's cool! Do you know if they have a built-in spam detection system or you're expected to moderate comments manually?
@simevidas Thank you. It seems to be a common practice. I've been using it for a long time and I'd say that it works relatively well. It just sucks that to view comments one must jump to another website, as opposed to having them listed under the blog post (there are ways to pull comments from Mastodon, but it's a one-way/read-only integration).
Also, for anyone to contribute to the discussion they must have a Fediverse account, but to view the blog post no account is required.
@ilyess just online chat. I wanna add some activity pub support cause that would be cool AF but...
Nothing real yet.
@ketmorco Totally! ActivityPub support would be really nice. I believe Wordpress has it already, but I haven't seen any full integration for static websites yet.
What do you mean "online chat"?
@piofthings I know! 🤣 Comments aren't easy to operate, and their benefits are debatable.
Keeping per-user comments in the browser cache is hilarious (first time I hear about this). But also, kind of evil :P
Email preset link in RSS post footer.
Email preset link in website post page footer.
Public comments on Mastodon / Lobsters / HackerNews.
Mastodon. Human, insightful, and part of a larger continued conversation where some folks turning up again a few weeks/months later.
I rarely submit things to HackerNews, usually someone else does it first. It drives traffic, but I don't find its comments worth responding to or otherwise interesting as part of a larger conversation. It's not "social" in the way I look for.
I submit to Lobsters as courtesy, quiet comments, focused on passive upvote and hashtag discovery. Like Digg!
@krinkle I'm getting the same vibes from Mastodon. Never really felt the need to look elsewhere TBH.
Thanks for your insights on HackerNews and Lobsters!
@vollink Thanks. Yeah, I agree that comment management could become a burden.
Email correspondence is not exactly the same, though. Comments can foster a richer discussion by having different folks chime in under the same thread. Email is mostly 1 on 1, like a private message to the author.
By the way, I also use email in addition to Mastodon to gather feedback.
I answered “native comment management” because that’s what I use to store a copy of the comments and display them on my blog, and anyone can indeed still use the comment form under my posts to leave a comment. In practice though, 99% of the comments on my blog are posts on the Fediverse, replies to my post federated to my site.
“Real” comments are mostly dead these days, unfortunately. I’m glad my blog is federated or I would see zero interaction under my posts. 😔
If you have a blog, what do you use for comment management? #blog #comments #indieWeb #poll [ ] Third party comment provider like Disqus or Github [ ] Native comment management [ ] Webmentions [ ] Other (please specify in the comments)
@ilyess I announce all new blog posts on Fedi and add a link to that Fedi post in the blog post.
For a while I displayed a static copy of all the Fedi replies on my posts, but I felt like it didn't add much and just cluttered the page.
I wrote about the technical implementation (with Hugo) here
https://schafe-sind-bessere-rasenmaeher.de/tech/static-comments-for-my-static-blog/
. Doing it without JavaScript is a terrible idea and requires you to constantly rebuild your static page. I just did it to prove that I can. Well... and I want to keep my blog free of JS for as long as possible.
If you're going for something like that, I like @beejjorgensen 's approach way better:
@irgndsondepp I had a feeling of deja vu while reading your post. It turns out I had already seen it when I was exploring this topic before xD
Leveraging Fediverse replies as a commenting system for a blog is a nifty trick. I've seen it deployed in many blogs out there. It does come with limitations though, like being read-only.
@ilyess For the most part. Every blog post is associated with a Mastodon comment ID and a link to the Mastodon post. Comments and engagements are displayed under the blog post, but the actual interaction takes place on mastodon.
You can see this post as an example: https://readbeanicecream.surge.sh/2025/02/22/integrated-mastodon-comments/
@readbeanicecream That's cool. Thanks for the link.
I saw this strategy deployed on multiple blogs. It does move the discussion away from the blog post, though, and has the disadvantage (or advantage, depending on how you look at it) of requiring a Fediverse account to join the discussion. But it seems to work 🤷