Listen, it’s very simple: In Britain we use the metric system, except for beer and milk, which come in pints. But not plant milk — that comes in litres.

Oh, and distances are in miles. But only if they’re too far to walk — if you can walk it it’s in metres. If you’re driving then your fuel efficiency is in miles-per-gallon, but petrol is sold in litres.

Oh, and your height is in feet and inches. If you don’t care much about your weight it’s in stone (but not pounds — no-one can remember how many pounds are in a stone and it’s hard to read the little tick marks on analogue scales). If you do care about your weight then your digital scales tell you it in kilograms.

Oh, and if there’s a heatwave then tabloids will forecast a “100°F scorcher”. But if it’s cold then it’s an “arctic blast” with “widespread temperatures below 0°C”.

I hope this clears things up.

@katemorley I know that nominal limber sizes are in inches (four-be-two), but I wonder if planks are sold in lengths of feet or metres.

@StarkRG @katemorley Lengths of timber are usually “metric feet” - multiples of 300mm. E.g, 2400, 2700, 3000 or 4200mm, just as often written in metres so 4.2m, etc. Building sites these days are usually laid out on a 600mm grid. Joists and rafters are typically spaced at 400mm or 600mm centres.

Dimensions in inches (like 2-by4) are the rough-sawn pre-planed dimensions. Planed dimensions are given in millimetres so 2x4 might be something like 47x100mm. I've been confused for a while about why some is 45mm and some 47mm.

Sheet goods (like plywood) are referred to colloquially as “8x4” but that can be either 2400x1200 mm or actual 8'x4': 2440x1220mm. If you really care you have to be specific.

Thicknesses of ply, OSB, etc, are done in mm but they're rounded versions of the old inch dimensions so typically 6, 11, 15, 19mm and so on.

As with timber dimensions, plumbing goods use inches and mm in different ways. E.g., a ½" pipe is 15mm because the ½" references the inside diameter whereas the 15mm is the outside diameter. Plastic pipe (with its thicker wall thickness) breaks the assumptions here so «½"» plastic pipe has an outside diameter of 15mm but an inside diameter considerably less than ½".

@edavies @StarkRG @katemorley Actually , imperial BSP pipe sizes used to be the standard but were replaced by metric for most applications about 50 years ago. The 2 are not compatible, but you can get adapters, as tap and hose fittings are still BSP, and some older installations do still exist.
Speaking from experience, as I have had to make tapered pipes to match up sizes in an old property about 25 years ago.

@wyliecoyoteuk Oh, TIL, ta. I think 15 mm pipe is still colloquially called ½", though?

This is mildly relevant to me as I'll need to replace my kitchen taps at some point, though the short flexible pipes they come with should deal with this?

@StarkRG @katemorley

@edavies @wyliecoyoteuk @StarkRG @katemorley Plumbing in the UK is just water lego. But generally yes, anything 1/2" BSP is for 15mm pipe and 3/4" is for 22mm pipe. Occasionally you will come across real 1/2" pipe but it's rare these days.
@jamesb @edavies @StarkRG @katemorley 1/2" and 3/4" BSP fittings are still common and are used for taps, radiator valves and garden hoses amongst other things.
They are not compatible with 15mm and 22mm.
@wyliecoyoteuk @edavies @StarkRG @katemorley Are we going to argue semantics here?
@jamesb @edavies @StarkRG @katemorley
Not semantics. Physical differences and experience of renovating kitchens and bathrooms. BSP has not gone away, as you will find if you try to connect a 15mm fitting to a tap.
@wyliecoyoteuk @edavies @StarkRG @katemorley Compression fittings for 15mm pipe have a 1/2" thread, for 22mm they have a 3/4" thread. It's not advisable to use them as such but it works. See also the flat vs normal fittings for flex hoses.
@jamesb @edavies @StarkRG @katemorley
If you try to connect a BSP fitting to a metric one, you either strip one of the threads or end up with a leaky connection.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/essentials-flexible-tap-connector-22mm-x-3-4-x-1000mm/33944
@jamesb @edavies @StarkRG @katemorley Strangely enough, some Chinese manufacturers still use BSP fittings. I had an inflatable hot tub with 1" BSP pipe fittings. The metric equivalent 25mm did sort of fit, but leaked.
@wyliecoyoteuk @edavies @StarkRG @katemorley I mean... I'd be pissed off if I got something without BSP fittings. M25 sounds like a nightmare to find fittings for.

At least with NPT you can use a load of PTFE and get it working.