Spelling Mistakes Cost LivesAug 7, 2025
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Show threadkolya
@spellingmistakescostlives I like the attitude but it's the same fallacy as those "You wouldn't download a car"-ads. a digital copy is not taking anything physical away. it takes away work and creativity and a lot of other hard to quantify values that people nevertheless get paid for.
by showing the thief taking the result of this work, it also falls into the "content" trap.
Aug 7, 2025 at 9:36pmWeb
Show threadMagnus AhltorpAug 7, 2025

@kolya @spellingmistakescostlives But if we extend “train AI” to just all techbro behaviour, we have things that are actually taking physical things away, like scooter companies just unilaterally annexing public street space by placing scooters there.

Even if we stay in the “train AI” space, “AI” crawlers are now causing real harm to web server operators by uncontrollably bombarding them with queries.

Show threadkolyaAug 7, 2025
@ahltorp @spellingmistakescostlives I guess we can agree that communicating and illustrating the actual damage is difficult.
Show threadJay 🇺🇦Aug 10, 2025
@kolya @ahltorp @spellingmistakescostlives
True.
Show threadCyAug 10, 2025
Pictures of locust swarms, demonic hoards, stampeding cattle, getting buried in corpses, caption: "WHATS WRONG WERE JUST TRAINING OUR AI"

CC: @[email protected] @[email protected]
Show threadfroxAug 8, 2025
@kolya @spellingmistakescostlives there is one key difference. The private use is usually for personal consumption, not for profit and not to create any derivative works.
The "AI" scraping is definitely for profit, intended to be a way to avoid paying creators for their work by reproducing it for free and then selling it to as many people as possible
Show threadJay 🇺🇦Aug 10, 2025

@kolya @spellingmistakescostlives

Eh.
Unlike piracy, AI does actually rapidly take the art away by deleting artists' jobs plus AI resells other people's art which is not how napster worked.
So while we all realize that digital copying does not delete the original, we should not apply stricter rules to our defense against fascist big tech than big tech itself keeps applying to us.
The picture is not accurate but it's so much closer to accurate than the original campaign.

Show threadkolyaAug 10, 2025
@Soulshine @spellingmistakescostlives
The argument against piracy at the time was the same: that it destroys jobs in the film and music industry. That didn't happen to any significant degree and it remains to be seen if AI does this sort of damage. Reselling might be a point. Then again P2P networks like eMule and BitTorrent also uploaded to others which can be understood as redistributing for zero price, ie much cheaper than the original work was sold at. Similar to how AI is cheaper.
Show threadSpelling Mistakes Cost LivesAug 10, 2025

@kolya So if I copy all the files from your hard drive without your permission, that's fine because it's not taking anything physical away?

If a digital copy is not theft why did OpenAI accuse DeepSeek of stealing their intellectual property? https://futurism.com/openai-deepseek-permission-ai-stealing

OpenAI Says DeepSeek Used Its Work Without Permission to Create an AI That's Stealing Its Job, Which Is Blatantly Hypocritical Since That's Exactly What It Did to Human Artists

After spending years indiscriminately ripping off other people's work, OpenAI is trying to pin blame on Chinese AI startup DeepSeek.

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