ThefuzzyFurryComradeAug 3, 2025

On Exceptions

https://pawb.social/post/29141309

Show threadkopasz7

My issues are fundsmentally two fold with gen AI:

  • Who owns and controls it (billionares and entrenched corporations)

  • How it is shoehorned into everything (decision making processes, human-to-human communication, my coffee machine)

    • I cannot wait until finally the check is due and the AI bubble pops; folding this digital snake oil sellers’ house of cards.

    Aug 3, 2025 at 1:19pmWeb
    Show threadiAmTheTotAug 3, 2025
    You really take no issue with how they were all trained?
    Show threadbaahbAug 3, 2025

    The way they were trained is the way they were trained.

    I dont mean to say that the ethics dont matter, but you are talking as though this isnt already present tense.

    The only way to go back is basically a global EMP.

    What so you actually propose that is a realistic response?

    This is an actual question. To this point the only advice I’ve seen to come from the anti-ai crowd is “dont use it. Its bad!” And that is simply not practical.

    You all sound like the people who think we are actually able to get rid of guns entirely.

    Show threadqueermunist she/herAug 3, 2025

    Okay, you know those gigantic data centers that are being built that are using all our water and electricity?

    Stop building them.

    Seems easy.

    Show threadTrickDacyAug 3, 2025
    Just like how not buying guns is easy. For the people who get it.
    Show threadqueermunist she/herAug 3, 2025

    Guns can be concealed and smuggled.

    Compute warehouses the size of football fields that consume huge amounts of electricity and water absolutely can’t. They can all be found extremely easily and shut down, and it would be extremely easy to prevent more from being built.

    This isn’t hard.

    Show threadTrickDacyAug 3, 2025
    It’s a weird argument to say “we could just stop doing popular things”. It shows a lack of awareness. And no, explaining this doesn’t mean I’m taking sides I just recognize the current reality
    Show threadqueermunist she/herAug 3, 2025
    It’s not “popular” organically, it’s being forced on us by people who are invested in the technology. The chatbots are being shoved into everything because they want to make them profitable despite being money holes, not because people want it.
    Show threadWoodScientistAug 4, 2025
    And even if they do succeed in producing something useful. If you become dependent on a megacorp’s AI to do your job, why shouldn’t they charge you half your salary for the privilege?
    Show threadqueermunist she/herAug 4, 2025

    That’s what the boosters aren’t talking about.

    The chatbots are not profitable. They’ll need to charge way more for usage at some point to actually make money; at some point investors are going to demand returns on their investments, and that’s going to come out of user’s pockets.

    Show threadiAmTheTotAug 3, 2025
    The right thing isn’t always popular. Something being popular is not itself a good argument for a thing to be done.
    Show threadiAmTheTotAug 3, 2025

    I’m not sure your “this is the present” argument holds much water with me. If someone stole my work and made billions off it, I’d want justice whether it was one day or one decade later.

    I also don’t think “this is the way it is, suck it up” is a good argument in general. Nothing would ever improve if everyone thought like that.

    Also, not practical? I don’t use genAI and I’m getting along just fine.