Brian VastagBitTorrent never asks for age verification.
Owl Eyes@brianvastag neither does copyparty
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Salva@brianvastag eMule neither.
@salva_pl Now there's a name I haven't heard in quite some time.
@brianvastag I use it over BitTorrent, and Soulseek for music 😊
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USENET binary groups, either.
Though, maybe the age is implied there.
not a martian, honest@xinit @brianvastag you gotta pay for binary access though
Tofu 
@brianvastag I hope you're not using that client to torrent…
noodlejetski 
@tofu @brianvastag it's also the name of the protocol
LisPi@brianvastag @Aknorals Additionally: Eepsites (I2P) and onion services (Tor) also don't care about silly laws.
I2P has torrents (permanent Tor L lol).
I2P has torrents (permanent Tor L lol).
tyx@lispi314 @Aknorals @brianvastag
I don't want to spoil all the fun for you, but in some countries where they "took care about children safety" the next step was the criminalization of VPNs and things alike. Now it's already "criminalization of mention and searching for VPNs".
You're just at the beginning.
And I remember literally the same "LoL, don't tell them BT and VPN exist" talks ~10 yrs ago when this shit just have started.
@tyx @brianvastag @Aknorals Security by obscurity (<s>isn't</s>) has an extremely short lifespan and isn't a solution.
Ultimately when one's country falls to authoritarianism more direct action is required to rectify the situation.
Yes, it remains entirely feasible to reuse phone modems, NNCP/UUCP and so on to completely bypass the observed channels and it might even work for a while, but the problem will only fester in the meantime if it goes unaddressed.
Ultimately when one's country falls to authoritarianism more direct action is required to rectify the situation.
Yes, it remains entirely feasible to reuse phone modems, NNCP/UUCP and so on to completely bypass the observed channels and it might even work for a while, but the problem will only fester in the meantime if it goes unaddressed.
@lispi314 @Aknorals @brianvastag
Generally true with a few amendments:
Even in the USSR people were able to get information from the West.
And in Iran people watch porn brought thru the border on SD-cards and then copied over bluetooth from one mobile phone to another.
Both were/are illegal ofc. and can land you in jail/executor's hands.
>when one's country falls to authoritarianism
I'd prefer not to categorize things here - it's a continuum of degradation of "right to information" and it can happen in very different political circumstances.
@tyx @brianvastag @Aknorals To give a certain contemporary example: The UK has no Right to Silence and has Key Disclosure laws (enough to achieve police state status on its own).
Any subsequent law providing motivation to abuse the former two is enough to quality as an authoritarian nightmare as far as I'm concerned.
But any attempt to infringe upon one's ability to communicate and inform oneself that is not destination endpoint only (think a server requiring authorization) is already a step down the authoritarian line. Mandating anything on clients/servers/peers applicable in a general fashion has few purposes other than censorship and authoritarian erasure & enforcement.
It is mostly the kind of direct action required that changes depending on the circumstances, not its necessity.
Any subsequent law providing motivation to abuse the former two is enough to quality as an authoritarian nightmare as far as I'm concerned.
But any attempt to infringe upon one's ability to communicate and inform oneself that is not destination endpoint only (think a server requiring authorization) is already a step down the authoritarian line. Mandating anything on clients/servers/peers applicable in a general fashion has few purposes other than censorship and authoritarian erasure & enforcement.
It is mostly the kind of direct action required that changes depending on the circumstances, not its necessity.
LukefromDC@tyx @lispi314 @Aknorals @brianvastag Executing people for porn in the very heavily armed United States would be playing with fire. When the First Amendment is defeated, the Second Amendment takes up the fight.
The brutality of ICE here is already enough that whole communities meet their raids by pouring into the streets to fight.
@LukefromDC @brianvastag @Aknorals @tyx Imprisonning them would do the job and so long as it's selectively enforced (or the victim is painted in a certain way, true or false) it wouldn't be met with enough opposition.
@lispi314 @tyx @Aknorals @brianvastag In the US, a random percentage of all arrest attempts are resisted with armed force. In Atlanta yesterday, two cops tried to arrest someone for pissing in a subway station. He shot both of them (one in the knee and the other in the arm) and escaped. UPDATE: they claim to have caught him, but another Atlanta cop was shot today in an unrelated incident. License plate readers are suspected of causing yesterday's fighter to be tracked to Alabama and captured.
Thus large scale arrests for porn (like for anything else) mean a non-zero number of raids gone bad, gun battles, dead cops, dead defenders, the works. They have to give some to get some in this country. On top of that, police departments and ICE are finding themselves with vacancies they cannot fill because everyone that wants to be a cop and can qualify already is. Especially in neighborhoods of color we have successfully delegitimized policing as a career choice.
@tyx @lispi314 @Aknorals @brianvastag All a VPN ban does in most cases is prevent them from being hosted IN THE SAME COUNTRY as the users defying age and identity verification.
Not only is Tor (which is slower than VPNs but free and private) very difficult to block but the same "bridge" system used to defeat attempted blockades of Tor could easily be copied by VPN operators.
Criminalizing USE is far less likely in the fake "democracies" due to far stiffer opposition.
If this does occur, they'll also have to ban prepaid anonymous cell phone service, open wifi, peer to peer mesh networks, encrypted messaging like Signal that can move files in secret, and even flash drives and old computers that can move media by "sneakernet" bypassing the Internet entirely.
Where there is a will to resist, there is a way to defeat the Enemy. Now here's a UK special: We shall fight with great strength and confidence in the airwaves, we shall fight on the beaches and in the streets. We shall fight in the hills-we shall never surrender!
@LukefromDC @brianvastag @Aknorals @tyx They don't need to ban VPNs though.
As the laws currently exist they can just grab an image uploaded by a user or just a packet dump, claim it's encrypted and on failure or refusal to provide an adequate key (which indeed might not exist and which they might very well know and not care) they can then jail the user.
It's ridiculously abusable.
Combine that with a lack of Right to Silence and the path to kangaroo courts is very short indeed.
As the laws currently exist they can just grab an image uploaded by a user or just a packet dump, claim it's encrypted and on failure or refusal to provide an adequate key (which indeed might not exist and which they might very well know and not care) they can then jail the user.
It's ridiculously abusable.
Combine that with a lack of Right to Silence and the path to kangaroo courts is very short indeed.
@lispi314 @tyx @Aknorals @brianvastag large scale jailings for things people consider to be their rigjt in an armed country like the US may lead to very violent resistance. Look at the resiatance (even armed resistance) ICE is getting in places like Texas and LA. There's more where that came from if they want to try key disclosure jailings in the US over defiance of age verification.
I've already defied a roughly equivalent law and made it stick. We don't have key disclosure in the US but we do have grand juries. In 2018 I defied a grand jury subpeona for raw viseo clips. I burned it on the courthouse plaza with 20 more antifa standing with me and media camera rolling. They literally withdrew the subpoena in about 5 minutes
@LukefromDC @brianvastag @Aknorals @tyx The USA /has/ a Right to Silence in the fifth amendment and that /has/ been tested in court before.
That would be a *much* harder pill to swallow than it would be in the UK.
> Look at the resiatance (even armed resistance) ICE is getting in places like Texas and LA.
I'm glad to hear that's happening.
> In 2018 I defied a grand jury subpeona for raw viseo clips. I burned it on the courthouse plaza with 20 more antifa standing with me and media camera rolling. They literally withdrew the subpoena in about 5 minutes
That is interesting and I wonder how much of it is from the resistance's form and how much of it is full awareness that what they were asking for was unconstitutional *and* that the victim was more than willing to resist.
That would be a *much* harder pill to swallow than it would be in the UK.
> Look at the resiatance (even armed resistance) ICE is getting in places like Texas and LA.
I'm glad to hear that's happening.
> In 2018 I defied a grand jury subpeona for raw viseo clips. I burned it on the courthouse plaza with 20 more antifa standing with me and media camera rolling. They literally withdrew the subpoena in about 5 minutes
That is interesting and I wonder how much of it is from the resistance's form and how much of it is full awareness that what they were asking for was unconstitutional *and* that the victim was more than willing to resist.
Willow :bhjflag_bisexual::anarchy_punk_demiboy:@tyx @Aknorals @[email protected] @brianvastag you can't just "ban" Tor.
China tried. In response the Tor Project invented snowflake which is near possible to circumvent
China tried. In response the Tor Project invented snowflake which is near possible to circumvent
owlboy 
@brianvastag If I were someone like Meta, I wouldn’t serve porn via that protocol then. 😏
NZK@brianvastag The only thing I give bittorrent is a hash. Not age, not credit card, not even tracker urls.
niemda@brianvastag German law firms do.:)
Knut 🏳️🌈 🇳🇴🧸@brianvastag i consulted for a porn site once. Porn companies don't make money on the content per se. They make money on the content delievery. But, cost outlay to actually run a porn site is horrendously low. CDN costs mostly. My high school business teacher did it...okay...she did it at school. But she made bank with nothing more than a geocities-esque site and a scandal. Smack some ads in it from a studio on BT...easy money.
@brianvastag but...for your edification...the more selacious and forbidden it is, the higher cost for delivery. So only the ultra wealthy can actually afford child porn. *Cough*. #GOP *cough* do with that what you will.
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Neither does a stack of porn magazines found in the woods.
Neither does a stack of porn magazines found in the woods.
SkullGamer205 
@brianvastag , No problem. Somebody can make update. 
rtdsx 
@brianvastag neither does the Internet Archive/WaybackMachine
@brianvastag also just fyi and imo, qBitTorrent is way better than other torrent clients