If gaslighting was a settler colonial state:

https://sh.itjust.works/post/42879061

That’s some Olympic gold level mental gymnastics
It’s gebuinely beautiful. Yes.

DARVO.

They’re basically using narcissistic abuser testimonials as an instruction manual.

Sounds like a version of the DENNIS system.
  • Demonstrate victimhood
  • Engage with tanks
  • Nurture destruction
  • Neglect and target civilians
  • Inspire hope with false ceasefire
  • Separate population from their homeland
Hamas: Right, we need all the women and children to keep forcing the IDF to shoot them whilst trying to access essential food and supplies in supposed safe zones, to trick the world into sympathising with us. We are so dastardly.
Only the most depraved and diseased mind would think of such a scheme. Truly the worst people. The most disgusting no genociders ever and that’s a platinum level achievement.
Hamas isn’t completely blameless here, but it’s kind of like blaming the drunk who hit you in the face for you blowing up the bar.
So good, love it, more bullshit please.

When this genocide is over, all Israel supporter remain a danger to the world.

We will require an extensive Dezionification process, where the people are educated about the reality and faced with the horrors they commited and supported. In the meantime they must be kept away from any weapons or dangerous materials, must be kept away from amy position of responsibility or powet and must be kept away from any children and teenagers.

Furthermore we need a comprehensive process that identifies all settlers and IDF members and jails them until it is know which violent crimes they have committed and have been prosecuted properly if they have done so.

None of that will ever happen. The Middle East will burn with nuclear fire before the zionists give up.

Now read on the Samsung Option.

I say do it, cowards!

*Sampson Option

But that typo is hilarious!

What the fuck brain! I’m keeping the typo…
The up/downvote history of your post was interesting. Seems like the downvotes all hit at the same time…
Syncing tends to do that if they are on another server, fyi. Not that it also couldn’t be hasbots ofc.
We don’t merely look at votes here. We judge by comment.
You are advocating for putting more than 80% of Jews in camps.
Settlers and IDF members make up more than 80% of the world’s Jews?

80 % of Jews are Zionists.

Most anti-Zionists consider all Jews in Israel to be settlers. So you end up with half the Jews in camps.

Okay, so we’ve gone from “80%” to “half.”

Interesting.

Now, consider the fact that they used “settler” and “IDF” separately. That tells me that they actually don’t believe every single Jew in Israel is a settler, and in fact they are referring specifically to the illegal settler movement that is actively and continually stealing more land as we speak.

So. All members of the active and ongoing settler movement and IDF members. At this point, no IDF member can be assumed innocent, and the settlers are already breaking the law.

Half of Jews live in Israel. 80% of Jews worldwide are Zionists, if not more.

Among the anti-Zionists the words settlers, occupation, Zionist have different definitions. The most extreme use these words to appeal to moderates, who then think they are in agreement.

When Hamas speaks about settlers and occupation they mean all of Israel and all Jews living there. The naive western activist doesn’t understand that though and erroneously thinks it’s about the West Bank only. The idea of killing or pushing out the Jews/settlers/Zionists, which are used interchangeably in Arabic, and taking back their ancestors houses they still have the key to, is mainstream among Palestinians.

A similar thing happens when Jew is replaced with Zionist by extremists. Suddenly it become far more palatable even though most Jews are Zionists, as in believe Israel should exist. Antisemites love this little trick. The use of the word Zionist has moved the meaning a lot. It’s now closer to just mean evil Jew. Which is exactly how far right antisemites have used this word for decades in terms like ZOG.

Hamas also routinely uses the following argument: there are no Israeli civilians because they all serve in the IDF.

I agree that soldiers who have committed war crimes and politicians who ordered crimes against humanity should be brought to justice.

I’m pretty sure Hamas uses “settler” to refer to the Europeans and their descendents, because Israel is an active settler-colonial project.

Not because they’re Jewish, but because they’re white.

Are you saying that most Jewish people aren’t actually Jewish anymore because they became white Europeans when their ancestors left the middle east, or at least that Hamas is saying that?
I personally say yes! Put 80% of jews in camps! Fuck them, they lost their right to play victim.

I am saying that people who have committed or supported crimes need to be held responsible by law.

This has nothing to do with their religion or ethnicity. There is many Jews who want nothing to do with Israel or actively oppose its crimes. It is unfair, to lump them in with the genocidal criminals of the IDF and their supporters.

It is crucial to arrest the criminals, who often have committed crimes such as rape, torture, kidnapping and murder to protect the innocent Civilians.

Pretty sure they mean bc it sounds like you’re implying anyone who’s been in the IDF should be detained, and IDF service is mandatory

Detained until it is established that they haven’t committed any crimes. Such is the normal procedure for suspects of murder and other serious crimes.

However there is also people who have refused service, so it is not strictly mandatory, but remains a choice.

Over a million people would have to be detained though. How do you do that without violating human rights? Quarantine the ‘country’? Build 50 mega prisons?

The US alone has a prison capacity of about 2 million people. It shouldn’t be too difficult to spread the suspects in prisons around the world. Maybe some people with non-violent offenses such as theft, drug possession or fraud would have to be released on suspended sentences a bit earlier to make space.

However Israel also has a quite large prison capacity. I would argue that the people who run places like Sde Teiman do not have their rights violated if they become inmates there themselves. After all they keep claiming that these facilities are not in violation of human rights.

Don’t need to detain them. Need to learn the lessons og the past. We let the southern aristocracy stay alive abd have full privileges after the US civil war, and they were back in chqrge within 30 years, stole our country from us a few decades later.

We let nembers of the ss be most of the structure of the german successor state that we let survive, and now theyre officially zionist.

These are monsters. They do not want to be human, they arent worty saving, and if they support shit like this, i don’t see the point in wasting food or water on them. Their continued existence is a threat to all life. Just don’t tolerate it. Maybe it’s possible they coukd be people again, but it just isnt worth the cost, isn’t worth the risk.

Pretty big overlap with neomalthusians anyway. Im sure they’ll understand.

So was Hitler Youth.
Being a member of the idf without doing sabotage is a crime against humanity. Im human. I kinda take that shit personally.
It is possible to not serve in the IDF, in apartheid Israel Jewish citizens have similar options to evade military service as in most other democratic countries. It just closes the door to lucrative army or tech jobs as having served in the IDF is prestigious and serving in the right units can be a major career boost. Hence, if you have served in the IDF, you have served in a genocidal occupation army and it is very likely that you have been at least complicit in committing war crimes.
Dezionofication can be accomllished cheaply easily and quietly woth just a few feet of rope!
What the actual fuck!!!
lol state of Israel’s understanding of humanity is on par with a classic sociopath’s
Nope. Every sociopath ive ever met, including the one from my 6th grade class, was better than this.
Down with Israel.
I- uh- ut- uuuhhh…i- w- what?
Hamas is blamed, because it’s them who made israel do it. It’s classic abuser quote: “See what you made me do?”
don’t tell these people who financed and propped up Hamas
I think that’s who’s saying it.
Have a great day
Thank you Mr. Ultrablack.
“Stop hitting yourself!”
High-end “stop hitting yourself” energy.
“Stop genociding yourself”
“We had to drop the bombs, they wouldn’t have surrendered otherwise!”

The Majority Report had a chilling take on this. We are getting reports out of Gaza that the mass starvation is in its final stages. Many Gazans are at the late stages of starvation so that even if they got food it’s far too late and their body has started consuming itself.

In the next weeks/months the death toll is going to spike, even more than it has. Like mass graves are going to be filled.

Now all of these news outlets are seeing the writing on the wall and they’re starting to lay the groundwork to be able to claim that they have “always been” against the genocide now that it’s undeniable.

Hamas tortures people to death if they criticize them.

You may be in an information silo and not aware of how oppressive Hamas truly is.

There is a movement in Gaza that’s against Hamas, but because of the whole thing of Hamas torturing people to death, it’s hard for that movement to gain traction.

Hamas could end this war at any time if they released the hostages. If you were witnessing extreme hardship of your people and you could end it, why wouldn’t you? Holding those hostages is a war crime, every day they continue to hold them they are continuing their war crimes. Why wouldn’t Hamas release the hostages if they truly believed this was a genocide?

At this point the hostages are Hamas’ only bargaining chip left. At the same time, Israel has very publicly stated that their primary war goal is not the release of the hostages but the total extermination of Hamas. So even if Hamas released the hostages, by Israel’s own admission, the war would not end (it may even intensify as there’d be no hostages to avoid bad PR for).

Also, nobody thinks Hamas are saints. But the people of Gaza should not have to face extermination by explosions, gunshots or starvation because of their crimes.

Bargaining chip for what? What is the goal of Hamas at this point, other than to continue the conflict indefinitely?

Uhh…not being killed and/or tortured and killed?

Since they are religious nutjobs, revenge too probably.

So you’re good with Palestinians suffering so these nutjobs can have a “bargaining chip”? You’re good with Palestinians suffering so some nutjobs can have revenge?

Pfft be real. Terrorists are already psychopaths that only see lives as serving their abominable “God”. Sometimes this thing called “empathy” is useful for seeing why someone won’t give up their only means of survival, to avoid being killed, possibly tortured and raped.

Expecting people to just fuck themselves over and die is actually insane. It’s our job to kill terrorists if necessary, they are going to do whatever it takes to survive.

So sometimes you have to give them a way out, to preserve your own life and the lives of civilians. Not understanding such a basic thing is how you get fucking killed.

Does it make sense now?

So just give the terrorists whatever they want?

Why wouldn’t Hamas just recover their strength and do more terrorism in the future? If they can expect to always be given a way out, why would they ever stop their terrorist activity?

There’s a reason for the old saw “we don’t negotiate with terrorists.” And Hamas clearly doesn’t give a shit about the lives of Palestinian civilians, so what’s the end game? Or do you not want it to end and just be Hamas terrorism forever?

Hamas has been doing this for decades now. October 7 was obviously beyond anything else they did before but Hamas firing rockets at civilian population centers, Hamas taking hostages has sadly been a commonplace thing for a long time. If you’re not aware, Yahya Sinwar was a prisoner that was previously released in exchange for hostages. Then he planned the October 7 attack. So Israel releases some more Yahya Sinwars in exchange for hostages and then what? In a decade or two we do this thing all over again?