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Vassil Nikolov | Васил НиколовI wish I knew what these two words, "socialism" and "communism", actually mean to this generation.
Gary Houston@vnikolov something like "socialism" is free education and health and "communism" is where you have no free speech and soldiers order you around and maybe send you to a gulag in Siberia? (the latter sounds like Trumpism actually.)
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Yes, the latter does sound like that indeed.
But _if_ that is Generation Z's understanding and still one third of them hold a favorable view of that, I don't know how much time I'll need to make heads or tails of it...
csaki01@vnikolov Socialsm is the good implementation of Marx and and Communism is the risky implementation of Marx
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@home@vnikolov socialism to me is a system of commerce where the means of production are not owned by all owner class, but the working class.
It's also often associated with essential goods like housing being maintained as non-profits and everyone having access to it as a fundamental right.
It seeks to take away political and economic power from a few bosses back into the hands of them many.
As for communism? I think it's more of a meme.
Michael Gemar@MikeDunnAuthor @noah Of course the OP’s handle is a gun reference.
WhichOne'sPink 🇫🇮@MikeDunnAuthor Just a note to those who may not have noticed, "SigSauer" is a gun manufacturer, making that guy an even bigger dick.
OGJester has moved@MikeDunnAuthor No one was more effective at radicalizing me against capitalism than the capitalists.
Maggie Maybe@OGjester @MikeDunnAuthor I’m so embarrassed to admit that it didn’t happen for me until I became disabled and I realized it was all a big scam. I’m embarrassed that I actually thought that if I worked hard my whole life and did everything they told me I was supposed to do that if something happened to me and I could no longer work that I could “just get disability” and I would be ok. I WAS SO DUMB.
Dark Phoenix 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇬🇱🇵🇦🇵🇸🏳️🌈@maggiejk @OGjester @MikeDunnAuthor
2008 did it for me.
I had beaten drugs, got out of an abusive marriage, had a job I loved, and I lost everything because of the ensuing recession. And then I watched as they bailed out the banks, leaving us holding the bag.
I finally got a relatively decent life, not what I chose, but it's ok. I was able to actually save a little.
And then an orange cockwomble got elected.
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King of Tors@MikeDunnAuthor I'm not Gen Z and totally agree with both majorities. Socialism is an economic system wherein the workers own the means of production; Communism is a political system akin to a pyramid scheme of power.
@kingtor @MikeDunnAuthor Communism is more of an utopian idea of a stateless, moneyless society. I think what you're referring to is the concept of a vanguard party, Leninism, or Maoism (authoritarian "transitional governments" that never seem to transition to communism).
@1337 @MikeDunnAuthor no, I'm referring to what I was taught in school, which is in line with the 2nd definition at https://www.wordnik.com/words/communism "A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people."
