Why can't a liquid move faster than the speed of sound in that medium?

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Why can't a liquid move faster than the speed of sound in that medium? - Lemmy.World

I was watching an XKCD “What-If” [https://youtu.be/pfbzrrcQZjs] video recently and Randal off-handedly mentions the title fact as a given. Upon a further Google search I see explanations about why sound moves faster in liquids than gasses but nothing for my specific question. Is there an intuitive explanation for that fact or is it just one of those weird observable facts with no clear explanation

Sound is transferred through a medium literally as a wave. When you get right down to the core of it, the wave requires movement within the medium to transmit.

So it might help to conceptualize it not as “Liquid cannot move faster than the speed of sound in it’s medium” but more like “The speed of sound in a liquid medium is defined by the speed at which energy can propagate in that system, which includes motion.”

So you’re saying I should view the speed of sound in a medium like the speed of light in a vacuum? That it’s the “speed-limit” of how a wave propagates and so trying to exceed it is impossible for a physical wave?

Badically. “Liquid/fluid” and “gas” don’t necessarily mean the same thing scientifically as they do colloquially, they’re actually very close to the same thing.

Fluid dynamics covers the study of liquids, gasses, and plasmas because they’re effectively the same.

Light travelling through a media like water or a prism actually changes speed, however slight.

Colloquially, but not in actuality. Light still travels at the same speed technically, but it bounces off particles which makes it take a longer path so it takes longer to get from one point to another, but it’s speed is still constant.

but it bounces off particles which makes it take a longer path

If I get the explanation on Wikipedia right, it’s not the photon taking a longer path, but the photon is absorbed by electons and re-emitted after a short delay. This effect is what decreases the speed of light in a transparent medium.

In exotic materials like Bose–Einstein condensates near absolute zero, the effective speed of light may be only a few metres per second. However, this represents absorption and re-radiation delay between atoms, as do all slower-than-c speeds in material substances. As an extreme example of light “slowing” in matter, two independent teams of physicists claimed to bring light to a “complete standstill” by passing it through a Bose–Einstein condensate of the element rubidium. The popular description of light being “stopped” in these experiments refers only to light being stored in the excited states of atoms, then re-emitted at an arbitrarily later time, as stimulated by a second laser pulse. During the time it had “stopped”, it had ceased to be light. This type of behaviour is generally microscopically true of all transparent media which “slow” the speed of light.