LadyButterfly she/herI'm intrigued
killeronthecornerNice of him to get the red flags out on the table early though!
PitLoversNeedMedsCalamari is a red flag? People can be wrong…
His one visible mistake is not backing down when confronted with a different opinion and re-evaluating.
Facts and opinions are two different things.
Facts are all opinions until researched and confirmed. If you have two people arguing, there is no “more right” or “wrong” because it’s just two voices against each other.
Your “facts” don’t exist until proved.
Facts exist outside of you. Facts are already confirmed/researched and we just call upon them in conversation.
If an argument is based around a fact, there is indeed a right and wrong side. The accuracy of your recall of a given fact is the meaure of rightness in the argument.
If you can’t empathize with someone not having all the information in a conversation and hence arguing from a place of incomplete information, you’re definitely not someone worth spending any amount of time with…
How did you get that from what I said?
Here lemme flip the script on you. If you can’t listen to someone and absorb information without immediately conjuring negative assumptions about them, you might not be fun to be with either.
The point was that facts are facts. The fact that calamari is not caviar is not malleable (unless you’re in Estonia I suppose lol). It’s just a cold hard fact that outside of Estonia they’re two completely different things. In this situation there is no spectrum of rightness. You’re just either right or you’re wrong.
I’m not saying that its worth dying on the calamari hill in public. Handle that debate however you see fit.
Someone’s words are not more truthful than another person’s. The only reason you see the calamari thing as fact is because you have the bigger picture.
Your lack of empathy, ergo, putting yourself in the shoes of someone with a certain conviction, is a red flag.
If you can’t realise that the dude’s opinion is worth the same as the girl’s within their conversation, then you lack critical thinking skills.
If he says A and she says B, only an outsider observer can determine whether he or she is right.
I’m sorry but if you can’t grasp this simple concept there’s no point taking to you anymore, and you come across as extremely arrogant.
Looking through your interactions regarding this seems like there has been some stuff mistaken as sarcasm when it wasn’t, they were agreeing with you but the context was lost and so you took offense. It happens. No biggie.
But the rest of this seems like you’re trying really hard to be philosophical and… Well … it’s not working.
No outside observer is required to prove you wrong when you’re arguing facts. And within their conversation…? They were arguing about proven facts. These aren’t opinions they were arguing (eg political or religious beliefs).
My opinion? A simple Google search to confirm his own knowledge (or lack thereof) would have solved this. He gave himself no room to be wrong. He clearly needs to be humbled and recognize that he might just be wrong about something. That is the red flag he needs to work on.
Your red flag? Your inability to recognize what is ACTUALLY being discussed here and showing your own arrogance about it all disguised as being philosophically and morally superior. There’s no empathy required here until he has the ability to humble himself.
Try to go back through these comments but with a different mindset and a different tone of voice for your internal narrator and you might pick up what we’ve all been putting down for you.
Good luck.
It seems like you don’t know the definition of the word truth or you’ve been taught an inaccurate version of it. They way you write makes me think that you read a lot online and I’ve noticed in the last five or so years that there seems to be a push by some people (typically with ulterior motives from what I’ve seen) to dilute the definition of truth to accomodate the propagation of their worldview.
The truth of the conversation is that the guy was wrong. Calamari is not caviar = True.
This idea of adapting the word “true” to conveniently dodge outright wrongness on a topic is a problem. You’re using the wrong word if you’re saying things like “my truth” or “your truth”. It would be more accurate to say “my/your understanding”.
As I mentioned before, the truth is something that exists outside of you. You refer to facts to describe the truth to the best of your ability. No one expects anyone to have a complete understanding about everything. Incomplete knowledge is just fine so long as you accept when others fill in the gaps or correct you.
Its OK to be wrong. If people accept their own fallibility, they grow with every conversation they have.
Maybe you should back down and re-evaluate
Says the person fighting for the last word?
He said, frantically struggling to have the last word…
That’s just, like, your opinion, man.
His one visible mistake is not backing down when confronted with a different opinion and re-evaluating.
Refusing to back down is the red flag, yes
“The only red flag was the red flag”
“People need to be perfect at all times and can’t make mistakes”
Mistakes are fine, it’s how you handle them. Instead of saying, “huh, I’m not sure if you’re right or not; let’s look it up, or just move on” he decided to adamantly defend his (incorrect) position.
Kinda like what you’re doing! Hahey!
MinnesotaGoddamHey dude this is for you 🚩
Somehow you’re the dumb asshole on two of the last two threads I read (the other one being about appropriate songs on a hiking trail). Impressive.
You’re so fucking superficial that you can’t understand that people make mistakes, that goes for me and it goes for the guy being called a “red flag” on this post. Your levels of empathy would make Trump look kind. 🤡
Eat my dick, bitch
And get your STDs? Gross cunt.
Oh wow, I had to scroll quite a way to find a comment that wasn’t in the negative.
three_trains_in_a_trenchcoatReminds me of that 4chan post where anon gets stopped by a stranger who tries to explain that Aluminum is the best metal. Anon tries to stay calm and explain the iron is the best metal, but the guy just kept going off about Aluminum and started talking about rust and ruined Anon's whole day.
The concept of “best metal” without specifying for which purpose is pretty ridiculous, so to me the anon in your story is equally guilty of causing his own bad day.
OwlWell, no
The best metal is obviously bismuth:
🇸🇵🇪🇨🇺🇱🇦🇹🇪🇷I was going to go with Iron Maiden, but Bismuth is pretty metal.
I prefer metal of the Swedish Melodic variety.
This is the most fabulous metal
decipher_jeanneEspecially because the answer is obviously Tin
Real tin-stans would call it antimony
I beg to differ
Aluminum is a weird choice because it’s almost always alloyed with other metals.
Match!!stranger is correct, aluminum is extremely strong and flexible
Brittle though
Strong enough to kick your ass!
That limbo bar don’t get any lower
If you need to Well, actually… on your first date, all your dates will be firsts!
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]Well actually, any subsequent dates wouldn’t be my first ever date /s
Keep this up and we’ll upgrade you to having 0 dates.
So your first date will be all of your dates (just the one), thus all your dates (singular) are firsts.
You’ve just catapulted into the territory of square-root of negative 1 dates.
Maybe man’s Estonian. Caviar in Estonian is “kalamari” which means fishberry
Holy shit, imagine how frustrating it would be to be that guy is this was the case. Especially if one of the bystanders spoke up.
Dawn, the plot thickens! Shows that we shouldn’t be so quick to judge.
Having said that, if I was having this conversation in a second language, I wouldn’t be so intransigent about it.
“Fishberry” what the fuck, but also astoundingly correct
Seen this before. Guy was testing his date to see if she would correct him and she would fail if she did.
I remember reading Ron DeSantis (governor of Florida) said he did this on dates. He would say Thigh Food for Thai food. If they corrected him he wouldn’t date them again.
He’s married now and I wonder if his wife ever offers to pick up Thigh food for dinner.
I do love some thigh food. The nectar of the gods.
I also love how he does the red flag ass version of this. He must be right. Not like playing mental games is ever great, but nothing more nail on the head than a Republican looking for subservience and weak will.
Honestly (if I played stupid games like this, which I do not), I’d be more likely to date them again if they correct me. I want someone who will tell me if I mispronounce a word I’ve only read, or have a booger, or smell bad, etc. When it happens organically I always appreciate it unless they’re a dick about it.
Sounds like the guy was doing them a favor helping them dodge a bullet.
That’s… completely mental.
What is this, a Seinfeld episode?
Jerry: “How’d the date go last night?”
Elaine: “Ugh, total bust! We spent the whole time arguing about calamari!”
Jerry: “Arguing about calamari? Like fried squid?”
Elaine gestures there you go
George: “It’s deep fried, what’s not to like?”
Elaine: “He doesn’t even know what it is!”
Jerry: “Never had calamari? What a sad life…”
Kramer enters. Applause.
Elaine: “Kramer. What’s calamari?”
Kramer: “Disgusting. That’s what it is.”
Jerry: “We’re not talking about the same calamari here.”
Kramer: “It’s like chewing on rubber bands!”
Jerry: “You’re not still going to Bosco’s are you?”
Kramer: “I like Bosco.”
George: “Didn’t the health board shut them down?”
Kramer: “That’s how you know it’s authentic.”
Elaine: “Can we get back to my problem, please?”
Jerry: “I’ll tell you what, let’s all go out. Elaine, you can bring you can bring your boyfriend. I’ll show you all what calamari is supposed to taste like.”
Elaine: “Well, do the have caviar?”
Jerry: “Caviar? What am I made of money? Why caviar?”
Elaine: “That’s what he thinks calamari is!”
George: “Did you correct him?”
Elaine: “Yes, George, I corrected him. I corrected him for 45 minutes!”
Kramer: “Well why didn’t you just order the calamari and show him?”
Elaine: “We were at a coffee shop.”
Kramer: “Oh, they don’t serve calamari at coffee shops.”
Elaine: “…I know. I didn’t expect to have to defend the reality of what calamari is when we made the date.”
Were you a writer for the show, what the fuck, this is so accurate
It’s shockingly easy. There was a whole reddit subreddit dedicated to inventing new Seinfeld scripts
ZagorathI’ve only ever seen a couple of episodes and I was shocked at how well this script fit what I’ve seen.
I’ve only ever seen a few episodes but I don’t know how accurate this is at all.