Hasan Piker on AOC voting to send Iron Dome missiles to Israel

https://lemmy.ml/post/33393507

This seems pretty divisive in American politics for multiple reasons
Yeah the division is between people supporting genocide and people not supporting genocide.
Must suck for non genocidal democrats who have no option but to ignore this next year during campaigning; logically realizing they must minimize these issues to help fight against the worse Republicans
No it’s going to suck for the genocide Democrats losing their reelection because they wanted to support genocide.
But most of them will not loose their reelection.
That remains to be seen
You mean the strategy that just helped to cost them an election?
The very same strategy that got them where they are.

Who should we support than?

Who do I vote for on the midterms?

Al Green

Summer Lee

Ilhan Omar

Rashida Tlaib.

Al Green voted for H. Res. 771 which states that the House of Representatives: “stands with Israel as it defends itself against the barbaric war launched by Hamas and other terrorists” and “reaffirms the United States’ commitment to Israel’s security”.

You think that’s the kind of person I should be voting for?

When was this?

It never happened.

clerk.house.gov/Votes/2023528

Says he voted nay.

Roll Call 528 Roll Call 528, Bill Number: H. Res. 771, 118th Congress, 1st Session

VOTE QUESTION: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Agree, DESCRIPTION: Standing with Israel as it defends itself against the barbaric war launched by Hamas and other terrorists, VOTE TYPE: 2/3 Yea-And-Nay, STATUS: Passed

Office of the Clerk, U.S. House of Representatives
Oh wow thanks for looking it up. The DNC lies get worse by the day.
Killing civilians is never okay. It is not okay when Israel does it to occupy more land. And it is not okay either when Hamas does it to stop that. If we think it’s okay for one side, then they just get on the same level.
Hamas targets military bases not civilians. Get out of here both sidesing a genocide.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_7_attacks

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_war_hostage_crisis

Hamas targeted civilians and took civilian hostages. Get out of here with your straight-up lies.

October 7 attacks - Wikipedia

5 military bases. Go educate yourself a bit about October 7. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt_1k7nSv1M
The Gaza Ghetto Uprising

YouTube
Get out of here ignoring civilians and spreading lies just because they’re living in the wrong county. Sorry not sorry that I do not only care for Palestinian civilians but also for Jewish ones.

You only value Israeli lives shown by the fact that you think Israel should be able to murder Palestinians without retaliation. You even wish to protect Israeli military bases against retaliation.

jewishcurrents.org/iron-dome-is-not-a-defensive-s…

Iron Dome Is Not a Defensive System

The Iron Dome cannot meaningfully be considered “life-saving” in any value system that recognizes Palestinian humanity.

Jewish Currents
In his defense he also care for the life of paedophile so it all checks out.
Lol do you think it’s a way to own me to say that I’m consistently for human rights and yes, truly oppose the death sentence & torture, no matter what the person did?
Either you’re a fan of Guantanamo or you have massive double standards.

Nice strawman, but no. Funnily enough most people in my irl surrounding argue with me because I stand against Israels cruel attacks on Palestinian civilians and they argue about self-defence and October attacks. And they say the same like that I “think Hamas should just be able to murder Israeli civilians”.

It’s bullshit either way. Just because I think it’s horrible what Israel does and how they attack civilians doesn’t mean I think it’s good that Hamas also does that, and the other way around.

Hamas attacks military bases not civilians. Go educate yourself before both sidesing a genocide. youtu.be/Pt_1k7nSv1M
The Gaza Ghetto Uprising

YouTube
I see someone got banned for mentioning the hostages… so I don’t have much to respond. But it’s sad you don’t care about war crimes if the right ones are doing it.
Consider watching the video and educating yourself.
captured colonisers and IDF are not ‘hostages’.
You don’t care for either.
That’s not true. It’s genuinely heartbreaking to hear about all the shit that’s going on, and I truly wish that people wouldn’t suffer like that.
You clearly care for only Israel, this is like condemning an attack on the Nazis saving you care deeply for Jewish and German lives on nazi base camps. If you genuinely care for the oppressor as much as the oppressed, you are a failed human being
Israelis all serve in the IDF, making them all valid targets. The only ones that don’t, are far right zealots that shout for other Israelis to commit geonicide. Many of them are also settlers who engage in horrendous pogroms, supported by the state, IDF, and populace at large. Finally, the oppressed owe their oppressors no quarter and are not required to play respectability games or pass purity tests. They can’t afford to, their very futures depend on it.
You would have condemned the Warsaw Ghetto uprising.

AOC’s comment on her vote

No it cuts off “defensive” weapons. Which do not exist under international law. According to international law all weapons to Israel should be banned.

jewishcurrents.org/iron-dome-is-not-a-defensive-s…

Iron Dome Is Not a Defensive System

The Iron Dome cannot meaningfully be considered “life-saving” in any value system that recognizes Palestinian humanity.

Jewish Currents

I like when I see .ml or hexbear people talk about international laws and genocide lawyers and the like.

Yet they also dance around saying the US is why Russia invaded Ukraine(it’s not).

Uh huh

Surely you can link where I said those things.
How does that change my statement?
You mean you lied?
Delete the comments then accuse me of lying. Sure bozo
You already admitted that you lied.
In my opinion, we shouldn’t be supporting Israel in any shape or form. It’s on the Israeli government to stop what its doing and make moves towards peace so no missiles are launched.

BS. AOC voted against any bill that provided assistance to Israel.

You’re full of shit.

Fuck Israel, genocidal scum!

Op is simply doing Republican jobs for them. AOC is quite clear in her reasoning and op still wants one of the most progressive people in the house out.

Not convinced theyre not rooting for Republicans. Noting but BS posts the past couple days, minimum.

A lemmy.ml user posting Republican talking points again? This post is a straight up lie. AOC didn’t even vote for what this post is saying she voted for.

Lemmy.ml is a cesspool of agents subtly trying to keep the right in power. They spend resources all over the world helping right wing politicians get elected. AOC is out there trying to stop genocide and this .ml user is lying about her to intentionally get more children starved to death. This post, which is an easily disprovable lie, is just one case and point.

Do not believe a single thing said by someone with a .ml after their name.

Elaborate way to say that .ml doesn’t support genocide and you do.
You have zero credibility. A liar who is responsible for more children dying. Nothing you say is reliable.
You have zero credibility. This very post is a bald faced lie.
Is Hasan Piker a .ml poster?
Want me to repost it for you real quick? That way it didn’t come from a .ml user. /S

AOC voted against an amendment to the bill for removing the sending of arms to Israel. That’s a fact in the public record.

www.congress.gov/amendment/119th-congress/…/55

An amendment numbered 114 printed in Part A of House Report 119-199 to strike funding for the Israeli Cooperative Programs.

Roll Call 207 | Bill Number: H. R. 4016: clerk.house.gov/Votes/2025207

Amendment Author: Greene of Georgia Part A Amendment No. 114

AOC voted nay. Only six voted yea: Al Green (D), Marjorie Taylor Greene ®, Summer Lee (D), Thomas Massie ®, Ilhan Omar (D), and, Rashida Tlaib (D).

You have a .ml after your name. Nothing you say matters. Stop supporting genocide by spreading lies about progressives and propping up fascist talking points.
Facts don’t have “talking points,” nor are they lies.
Facts don’t care about your feelings. Free Palestine.
Yeah, shebcoted nay, but why? The automatic assumption for some here is that she likes dead kids and genocide and that might just not be true

“Maybe she has good reasons for materially supporting genocide!”

Jesus Christ

Let the mental gymnastics begin.
Positions on funding Israel continues to be her weakest and worst takes. But that’s a common L for Congress.