not_IOmale voters
cub GucciSupplement Mamdani with a Trump-like folk and see it for yourself: Dems do not support socialism, nothing new here
So there should be a socialist party no?
Nope if you ask me. Socialists must conquer the Dem platform just as fascist have conquered the GOP
That’s depressing on so many levels it’s almost funny.
Problem is fascists get a lot of money or have their signal boosted with money for doing what they are doing. Socialists will be fought with money. Remember the billionaires standing in line behind Trump? Who were missing were the Murdoch media empire an Putin, they also signal-boosted Trump. But other than those, that row of billionaires gives you an idea of how much money is backing fascists.
In principle yeah, although I’ve a feeling the only way that’s going to happen is with a credible socialist party showing up to threaten the status quo and force their hand. Otherwise they’re just going to keep on keeping on; we already saw what happened with Bernie, and he’s not even that hard left.
Problem is:
both the DNC and GOP fight Socialists (or more like moderate social democrats already)
both the DNC and GOP do not fight Fascist, and often help them instead.
A lot of problems there are, but what are going to do? ldar?
GOP do not fight Fascist
It’s worth remembering there was a “Never Trump” movement among Republicans, and it folded as soon as Trump won.
Because Rs support Rs no matter their characters or policy.
Team sports, and all.
Maybe.
Traditionally their views are in their names. You can expect other things from then, but also expect your expectations to not be met. That’s the fundamental point of a democracy; quite irrelevant if trapped in a two party system, though. But try enjoy the ride where you can.
sp3ctr4lYes, ideally, but the US system is completely rigged in a million different ways to make the emergence of a meaningful 3rd party almost impossible.
The way we award seats, first past the post, is horrendously flawed, and means that if every specifically defined area just barely has a majority… the net effect is a government that is way, way out of sync with what the broader population actually wants.
And this is all rigged by regularly and precisely redrawing all those specific geographic areas to make it so they are either clearly gonna be Rep or Dem, or 51-49 split that looks ‘reasonably fair’ on paper, but in practice, almost always goes to that 51.
…
Ironically, if Musk goes through with making his own third party… he, the literal richest man in the world, is basically the only person that could possibly pull that off.
That is how huge of a role money plays in US politics.
Takes the richest man in the world to be even maybe potentially able to counteract all the rest of the combined lobbying money of other corporate lobbyists… and thats assuming he was able to basically shut the fuck up and let at least strategically competent people run the whole show.
Going by the probably actually legit poll Elon commissioned to be run about possible support for an Elon party, here are the numbers I ended up with:
(will update in a moment, gotta go find my old post)
We need a good middle ground candidate. One that can get support from people like Dick Cheney and George W Bush. That’ll get us the young voters.
Its like they are trapped in this cycle of never ciriticising those before you. Bidens ego is one of the biggest problems we had before trump took his place.
It’s worth remembering that the primary that Biden won was all just a show to sabotage Bernie Sanders and gift the nom to Biden. Worked out very well.
Yeah, apparently we owed that to Biden, or something like that.
I really am curious to see what war criminal of the DNC trots out next to try and tempt us with. Kissinger didn’t work, Cheney didn’t work, who’s next? They going to have Netanyahu on stage next? Oh fuck they probably will…
Newsom’s getting there?
What Trump spent a lot of time talking about during the campaign was the economy and cost of living, which got worse under Biden.
Even a lot of his anti immigration stuff was frames as “they’re taking our jobs”. And that’s what Mamadani is doing right.
…due to Trump’s terrible pandemic handling, and Republicans blocking the anti price gouging bills
SoftestSapphicDoesn’t change the fact that when people do worse economicly for any reason they want to vote out the incumbent.
Which is moronic.
You can cry that voters are dumb all you like, but the only thing Biden could have done to win was improve the immediate material conditions of his constituents. He chose to do fuckall.
Trump was bad enough he still probably could have won if he didnt also choose to facilitate genocide and sent the cops to kick the shit out the politically activated students, the sort who not only vote but get others to vote too.
Well, maybe if democrats hadn’t broken their promises about minimum wage and childcare and tuition, people would have experienced tangible benefits from the biden administration and democrats would have something to run on.
And circumstances that were affecting the global economy. Every country was hurting. If I’m not mistaken, the US was doing better than most of the rest of the world, under Biden.
Voters are just dumb.
If you want to win when the economy is in recession, you have to make up the difference. FDR didnt get elected on “do nothing and hope the economy deigns to bless the people with jobs”
Which Republicans know, which is why they block everything every Democrat tries to do. Biden tried numerous things which were halted by our broken Senate
Convenient excuse. If dems genuinely wanted these things, they could include it in bills that can’t be filibustered, use executive orders or just help people and let the SCOTUS complain about it later.
We know they know how, because we see both republicans and dems do it, but only to make things worse for us or make sure Israel keeps getting bombs when congress is broken.
When you’re suffering, you really want to hear “it could be worse” from the people who showed over the course of months as they killed build back better and made sure the minimum wage stayed low that they had no interest in making anything better.
And if you come back with the Inflation Reduction Act or the CHIPS act, you typify the whole fucking problem.
Rest of the world here. We also have liberals taking over the economy. It doesn’t make yours better.
Gee, if only we had a majority we were willing to use. Oh well, at least we still have the Holy Filibuster that we’re just as unwilling to use.
And before some centrist pipes up with their usual “our hands were tied like we like them! We didn’t have enough to break the filibuster!” We could have ended the filibuster forever with 50 votes. We had 50 seats. Centrists didn’t want to. They still don’t want to. They’re happy having the filibuster and never using it because they know their republican buddies will use it to block progressive policy for them.
What client is this?
“raccoon for friendica”, but it works with mastodon as well
github.com/…/RaccoonForFriendica
they also habe a great lemmy client btw
Thanks
mail voters, young men that work at the posf office
killeronthecornerDemocrats: … But why male voters?
Mamdani: you serious? I just told you that a moment ago!
In New York City, or in other places?
I live in the pacific northwest and im legit considering moving to NYC to try to work for this guy and learn how he do
The fact this is downvoted is crazy… It’s a completely legitimate question and the first thing I asked myself when I read this.
It’s downvoted because everyone is tired of centrists’ excuses for shutting out progressives.
It’s called “voting in primaries” and it’s how people outside of NYC shut down progressives. Popularity in the most liberal of liberal cities hardly represent a country that voted for trump twice.
It’s called “voting in primaries”
Democrats successfully argued in court that they don’t have to run honest primaries.
They sued multiple candidates off the primary ballots in 2024, making sure that only one candidate was on all 50. And then appointed Harris without a primary. Primaries mean nothing to them
I’m not sorry that their attempts to stop Mamdani failed to keep him from winning the primary. Not all candidates can get past the party’s constant anti-progressive fuckery. We’ll see if the party’s attempts to keep their own candidate from winning in the general fail.
I doubt he’ll lose, he really is running a great campaign and NYC seems to like him a lot. Which cannot be blindly extrapolated to the rest of the country.
Which cannot be blindly extrapolated to the rest of the country.
Progressives can’t win anywhere until they do. Then they can’t win anywhere except where they just won. Convenient for people who don’t want progressives to be permitted to run under any circumstances.
Progressives can win in very progressive regions and have been doing it for decades. Bernie has been a senator for decades, but lost by a wide margin to Clinton. AOC has been a representative for a while. The country just ain’t that into it as a whole, they prefer a convicted criminal to a progressive.
Bernie has been a senator for decades, but lost by a wide margin to Clinton.
The party’s ratfucking works most of the time, yes. When it works, people who like the results tout them as indicative of what the results would be without the ratfucking. When the party’s ratfucking fails, it’s never indicative of broader trends in the electorate.
Conveniently. Your wing of the party prefers trump to any progressive in all cases.
I’m European so none of your mess of a political system is mine in any way. Even in the European system I’m left of center, so something Americans don’t even imagine.
That doesn’t prevent me from seeing that by and large the American population has rejected progressives at every step, and some delusional people on the internet keep blaming the DNC and seeking excuses, just because a progressive sometimes wins in NYC or southern California.
Enjoy the trump.
I’m European so
so stick to being misinformed about your own region’s politics.
“Everything I don’t like is misinformation. Don’t ask questions.”
I mean, you’ve spent this entire conversation conveniently ignoring the actions of the democratic party against progressives.
Which had zero impact since Bernie lost by millions both times.
JohnMamdani’s policies are favorable across the board.
In November, progressive policies passed in districts that Trump won.
But it’s a two party system!
With typical American extravagance.
It was a reference to a quote from Julius Nyerere:
The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.
Thank you!
Wealthy consultants: I know you’ve tried running as republicans-lite. We suggest that you move further to the right.
DNC: brilliant
UnderpantsWeevilchecking under the hood of the DNC
Curious, all I’m seeing is more consultants.