Gabriele SveltoIf you have an Intel Raptor Lake system and you're in the northern hemisphere, chances are that your machine is crashing more often because of the summer heat. I know because I can literally see which EU countries have been affected by heat waves by looking at the locales of Firefox crash reports coming from Raptor Lake systems.
Ludovic :Firefox: :FreeBSD:@gabrielesvelto wtf
@usul Raptor Lake systems have known timing/voltage issues that get worse with temperature. Things are so bad at this time that we had to disable a bot that was filing crash reports automatically because it was almost only finding crashes from people with affected systems https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1975808
Admiral SnackbärI know next to nothing about CPU design, but isn't there supposed to be a fan bolted to the CPU?
Isn't said fan supposed to spin up, when heat rises?
I didn't really understand how relatively mild heat can affect CPUs this much.
Leeloo@AdmSnackbar @gabrielesvelto @usul
- A fan cannot cool it below ambient temperature.
- The overheating parts may not be the ones touching the heat sink.
- The fan may be inadequate.
It used to be normal to get crashes if the cooling was inadequate, but for a couple of decades, cpus have been able to throttle down to manage overheating. Apparently Intel made a mistake in this one.
But are we talking about actual overheating here? These CPUs are relatively new, so I'd guess they're not utilized 100% by simply running firefox.
@AdmSnackbar @gabrielesvelto @usul
That argument could point towards the overheating part not being the one that's expected to get hot, and thus not touching the heat sink.
That argument could point towards the overheating part not being the one that's expected to get hot, and thus not touching the heat sink.
@leeloo @AdmSnackbar @usul Windows running updates in the background is sufficient to peg a CPU core to 100% and lead to significant heat dissipation. I'm just seeing the effects on Firefox, not what's causing it.