Due to tariffs, Americans are likely to hear a lot about farm mental health as harvest approaches this year. Especially farmer suicide.

So let's get it on the record now. The "farmer suicide epidemic" of the last few years in the US is not real.

It's a lobbying tactic.

Up next: a detailed overview of boring stats about something very sad.

I've lost family members to suicide, I've got colleagues in ag who've lost loved ones to suicide.

And we are not gonna fix this problem by lying about it!

So let's get our facts straight.

The first big debunk of a US farmer suicide epidemic was back in 2016.

https://thecounterorg.wpengine.com/farmer-suicide-crisis-cdc-study/

But a lot of folks are still out there pushing the story. Because "farmers are killing themselves!" is such a darn effective talking point.

Here's what it boils down to: the farmer suicide rate (44.8 - 59.4 per 100K) is over 3x the general population (14.12).

Very dramatic!

But farmers aren't the general population. They're mostly older rural white men. Whose suicide rate is 45.61 per 100K.

So, farmers are on par for their demo.

Gun ownership also pushes the likelihood up for an individual.

So if anything you'd actually expect farmers, who are more likely to have guns than average even for older rural white men, to be higher.

(Sources: farmer 2021 stat from this paper https://gaspsdata.dbhdd.ga.gov/data/suicide-rates-industry-and-occupation

and general & older rural white men, both for 2021, from WISQARS wisqars.cdc.gov)

Suicide Rates by Industry and Occupation | GASPS Data Warehouse

There's a very real public health situation going on in older rural white men in the US. And most of them are NOT farmers!

So let's have some context. Let's look at a whole range of professions with elevated suicide rates. A lot of them are male-dominated, trades, and/or rural, and NOT farming.

Tag yourself! I'm an agricultural scientist 🤠

(that'll be funny later I promise)

All occupations, men: 32
All occupations, women: 8

Electricians: 52.1 (men only. not enough data for women, that'll happen in a lot of these jobs)

Landscaping supervisor: 55.7
Carpenters: 60.4
Machinists: 62.5
Crane operators: 63.4
Manual freight movers: 68.7
Glaziers: 69.6
Millwrights: 73.2

Roofers: 79.9
Automotive repair techs: 80.6
Welders: 81.9
Structural iron & steel workers: 86.1
Construction workers: 91.0
Oil/gas drill & derrick operators: 116.8
"Other extraction workers": 128.7
Fishing & hunting workers: 130.6
Loggers: 161.1
Agricultural & food scientists: 173.1 🤠

Don't worry white-collar & creative jobs, we got you

Biz & finance: 13.5
Computer & math: 16.1(m), 4.9(w)
Legal: 20.5(m), 8(w)
Writers: 53.1(m), 22.8(w)
Postal clerks: 58.5
Artists & related workers: 93.3
Pro athletes & entertainers: 114.5
Surveyors & cartographers: 119.4
Musicians: 138.7

Shout-out to the service workers

Retail sales: 44.3(m), 15.1(w)
Bartenders: 47.0(m), 23.8(w)
Chefs & head cooks: 66.5(m), 32.9(w)
Computer, ATM, & office machine repair techs: 65.7 (!?)
"Personal care & service workers, all other": 95.4 (!!??)

And I can't get a clear view of farm worker stats, because this paper doesn't break "farm worker" out as its own category. There's a "misc farm worker" but no way to tell how many farm workers it includes?

This keeps happening. It's very rare to see farm worker suicide stats reported clearly.

(This is a very abbreviated list using 2021 data. Full list is in this CDC publication: https://gaspsdata.dbhdd.ga.gov/data/suicide-rates-industry-and-occupation )
Suicide Rates by Industry and Occupation | GASPS Data Warehouse

To bring it back to how we make sense of this.

Farmers may be struggling in some ways, but are REALLY not at higher risk for suicide than non-farming peers.

In fact, if we break it out by job, farmers aren't even in the top 20 of rural or blue-collar jobs by suicide risk.

Let's talk about how finances play into that.

Most Americans think of farmers as poor. That's decades out of date.

US farmers' median wealth & take-home income (AFTER farm debts & expenses) are much higher than non-farmers!

In rural counties, that can put even small farmers in the upper crust.

It's absolutely buck-wild to watch the farm sector make themselves the mascots of rural despair.

You know how they did that? Having the money to buy PR agents & ads to talk about how sad & poor they are.

That's kinda messed up if you think about it!

And that's why it's so important to look at the facts!

If you use ~vibes~ to find out who's suffering in the world, you've made it really easy for people with money to advertise to you about how bad they have it.

We should be way more worried about loggers, surveyors, fishing crews, & ATM techs apparently!

But we're not. Because these folks don't have the money or cultural capital to command attention the way the farm sector does.

You should always be more worried about the people you *don't* hear about.

related: pour one out for the agricultural scientists I guess

just wanted you to know that while I was making this thread, the algorithm decided to pull up Van Halen's "Jump" oh COME ON 💀

@sarahtaber OK, but is it this relaxed version ...

https://youtu.be/5ScLj2EscMY

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@sarahtaber unpleasant music association aside, this has been a truly interesting thread. I suspect much the same applies here in Australia, with some clear caveats related to firearms suicide.

There's defintely a narrative about how hard farmers are doing it and it's clearly true to a significant extent; farming is a hard career, expensive to do, and it's the processors of farm produce that have the growers over a barrel when it comes to how they are paid for what they produce. I work in dairy, and one of the major processors has recently issued new farm gate prices with increases in some regions and marked reductions in others, linked to the product destination for the milk. I'm glad I don't have to worry (directly) about all the things the owners do, because it's a LOT.

It's clear, too, that sectors other than farming face pressures, especially on younger and older workers. Suicide amongst men in Australia is measurably greater than among women, and frequently causally linked to employment and industry sector factors. Men are also far and away the perpetrators of violence across all incidents, again frequently linked directly with employment pressures.

Fascinating work, and you've made a great effort to call out discrepancies between narrative and facts. I continue to listen to what you have to say with deep interest, as it's always insightful.

@trib Appreciate it. I'm not a mental health professional so I'm reluctant to speculate on WHY all this stuff is happening, but it sure does help to start with accurate info! Instead of PR!

@sarahtaber

Lol, maybe the people making hay from this are mistaking well off farmers for Food & Ag scientists?

TBH, seeing the job attrition rate for those gigs, I'm not surprised. My spouse is biochem, and spent time at a primate center rather than working with seeds.

@sarahtaber Is the high suicide rate in ag scientists mayyybe? related to climate change and the big contributor that conventional ag business is to that? Just speculating

@MeerderWoerter I can only go off my own personal experience, but ag scientists can get:

-Whole seasons on the road/little time with family.

-Way more manual labor & chemical exposure than you'd think > can lead to chronic health issues.

-Zero authority in how agriculture is done bc we don't own anything (land, food handling co's, etc). We just do what owners ask us to do!

-But then we get blamed for all of agriculture's problems 🤠

Idk that might have something to do with it

@sarahtaber That sounds very reasonable - and thanks, I learned a lot now, I didn't know a lot about ag scientists
@sarahtaber This thread was so interesting and has made me wonder about how much of the "drought causes farmer suicide epidemic" news I remember watching as a child in Australia was real. On the one hand, the narrative I remember of farmers going absolutely bankrupt due to a particularly bad drought seemed believable. On the other, I feel like Australia is often a trialing ground for specifically Murdoch press lines being play-tested for more important markets like the UK and then the US.