Installed Teams because I have an interview later today:

Sign into Teams.

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Sign into Office.

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Sign into Teams.

"This version of Teams won't work with your account, click here to use a different version."

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Sign into Office.....

HOW IS THIS THE FUCKING DEFAULT EVERYONE REACHES FOR?!?!?!

@nuintari The chief problem here is that Microsoft repeated the Skype vs. Skype for Business branding fiasco, but named the two platforms/products the exact same fucking thing this time, with no real clarification as to which is which (which would be disjointed anyway).

@jima @nuintari

> The chief problem here is that Microsoft

I think this statement alone is accurate lol.

@litchralee_v6 Ennnh.

As even @nuintari (😉) acknowledges, Microsoft is pretty deeply embedded in many organizations, and (IMO) contrary to the desires of open source hardliners (as I was for years!), wishful thinking alone isn't going to change that.

(There's an "I used to be an anti-Microsoft zealot like you" joke to be made, but my heart's not in it today. Been a weird, weird career.)

@jima @nuintari I think my biggest gripe isn't even rooted in not being open-source. But rather, the mediocrity of what Microsoft publishes. Were some parts of the Office or SharePoint suite not bundled together for large corporations, things like Teams would either have been left in the dust or forced to actually fix their issues.

Even if Microsoft has an incumbent position, that doesn't make them immune to having their problems perpetually pointed out, at least in my book.

@litchralee_v6 Dropping nuintari since this is getting into the weeds. 😛

As an enterprise Lync/Skype for Business customer, we got an early (NDA-encumbered!) preview of Teams, long before it went GA. I will fully acknowledge that my first impression was "what the fuck Slack-wannabe bullshit is this?" (Possibly a verbatim quote, it's been a while.) Alas, despite our misgivings with losing the on-prem server option, it...wasn't as bad as we expected. Some elements were, dare I say, *good?* Wild.