James Gunn generally knows what he’s doing and I’m sure the movie is fine.

But a film that cost $225M to produce and another $200M to market on a franchise that’s nearly a century old and has always been box office gold… If it doesn’t turn a cool $1B the studio will consider it a flop. That its cruising in to the box office third place behind Minecraft (predictably disappointing) and the Live Action Lilo & Stitch (Christ, Disney, just die already) is… eh. Not a great sign for The Movies generally speaking.

An arguement can be made that Superman itself is not a great sign for the movies.

Not telling anyone what they should watch, but for me personally there is little difference between Minecraft, Lilo and Stitch and Superman.

Minecraft movie is nice just as an affirmation that the game is impactful but yeah its full of nonsense famous people doing famous people things. I didnt see the other two, unfortunately I hate live action remakes and super hero movies are so predictable these days.

I’d love to hear why people like superman this time around though, maybe they did come up with some unique ideas.

I was curious about how the Minecraft movie adapted the voxel world, but I started watching it and pretty quickly turned it off.

Superhero movies are OK, I like the Batman series, but otherwise I am good watching one movie a decade (with some exceptions).

To me, a lot of the motifs are extremely provincial and lazy. I remember watching the first Iron Man in 2008, there was this scene where Downey Jr. is imprisoned in a cave by the Taliban and he builds the iron man costume out of spare parts or something and escapes.

It was so stupid. Especially considering in real life an American oligarch in such a situation would do everything to not rock the the boat and exploit his American citizenship and financial status to get released (either via an exchange or giving the Taliban lots of money).

It was so stupid. Especially considering in real life an American oligarch in such a situation would do everything to not rock the the boat and exploit his American citizenship and financial status to get released (either via an exchange or giving the Taliban lots of money).

It’s a super hero movie. Tony Stark is an idealized futurist. You’re oligarchs in the franchise are Justin Hammer or Obadiah Stane.

That’s fair. I am just sharing my perspective. Keep in mind this was in 2008, when it just got released in cinemas and that was my initial gut-feeling reaction. Not sure who the other fellows are, but in my mind the Stark character was clearly an American oligarch.

As I mentioned in my OP, for me positioning Minecraft’s popularity as being bad for the movie industry, while at the same time presenting Superman as a contribution to cinema seems a bit inconsistent.