China is carrying out the solar revolution at scale. Here panels float on a reservoir in northwest China. This is just one of many massive solar power plants. The photos look like something out of science fiction:

https://www.theatlantic.com/photography/archive/2025/07/photos-china-solar-power-energy/683488/

Meanwhile Trump is fighting solar and pushing coal. The Chinese call him 建国同志, "Comrade Jianguo". Literally this means "Comrade Building the Nation". It's a joke about "Make America Great Again". It hints that Trump is actually helping China.

@johncarlosbaez A reminder that China is doing nothing special, it's the society wide science denial here that's puzzling.
@snarkweek - The US is indeed puzzling and depressing. But we have to admit that China is better organized than other countries when it comes to solar. They account for over 80% of global solar panel manufacturing capacity, and they have installed more solar capacity than the rest of the world combined in recent years.
@johncarlosbaez Only because we keep sabotaging our own renewable industry.

@snarkweek - It's interesting to see how the Chinese proceed:

Ezra Klein: You had just come from China, and I had just come back from a book tour. And we were talking about something else, but then I asked you how your China trip was, and what you said to me was: Ezra, you have no idea how screwed we are.

Thomas Friedman: Yes, because what you see when you’re there is the product of 30 years of being in the fitness gym. It works like this: A new industry comes along. Let’s call it solar panels. Every major city in China decides they need a solar panel factory. The local government subsidizes it — maybe domestically born, maybe in partnership with a foreign one.

And you end up, in a very short period of time with — I’m making the number up, but 75 solar panel companies. They then compete like crazy against each other in the fitness gym, and five of them survive. Those five are so fit that they can then go global at a price and level of innovation that is very hard for a foreign competitor to deal with — which is why China today basically controls the global solar panel market.

But what you also don’t see is that process of winnowing down from a hundred of those solar panel companies to the five produced a massive explosion of supply chains domestically to feed that industry.

The same thing went on with cars. The same thing goes on with robots. So where you end up five years later is with an interlocking set of supply chains that now, if you’re a young Chinese and say: I just got this idea. I want to produce a shirt that has a pink polka dot button that can sing the Chinese national anthem backward — someone will have it for you tomorrow.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/15/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-thomas-friedman.html

Opinion | Why Trump Could Lose His Trade War With China

The Times Opinion columnist discusses what he thinks Trump — and American policymakers — misunderstand about China in the escalating trade war.

The New York Times
@johncarlosbaez So the state is helping the industry. Same thing in the USA and EU though, where the state is doing exactly these things, except only for the fossil empire. The subsidies our societies carry for fossil are larger than the much debated 5% NATO contributions. The power structures here, the old boys networks and other furniture of our societies, they're stuck in a deadly rut so reflexively starting trade and proxy wars is not going to help them this time.
@snarkweek - I agree with you COMPLETELY about how dumb the US and (to a lesser extent) the EU is being when it comes to solar industrial policy, but you may be underestimating how smart China is being. I changed my quote to one a bit more illuminating.
@johncarlosbaez haha yes, agreed