John Carlos BaezIf you've turned it off it will stay off...
... but it will be on.
Martin Kimber@johncarlosbaez as a kid in the eighties we went from having a TV that could either be in the state “on” or “off” to a new one (still very primitive by today’s standards but it had a remote control) and this introduced me to the concept of “standby”, at which point I realised nothing would ever be simple again
@drmakimber - yes, people can't resist making technology more complicated and 'moderniizing' it, even at the expense of proper functionality. For example there are still bad chairs: you'd think the problem of making a good chair would be solved by now, but people keep trying new designs, and many of them are bad.
Technology that uses electronics is infinitely more problematic.
So the ability to understand which technology we're using, tell if it's on or off, and turn it on or off, is not a privilege we have anymore.