Erik Uden 🍑Jul 2
There's no male loneliness epidemic, just people with standards and men who don't want to work on themselves.
Show threadDaniël Franke Jul 2

@ErikUden While you're not wrong that the last part is an issue, I would say that the loneliness epidemic is a bit more complex than that.

We are losing social cohesion because of how polarised things like social media have made us, and that has made us more lonely. Now I'm not saying that the things we got polarised about are not important issues, or that things were 100% better then. But we are much less in touch with our societies now, and that is just as much a problem as men refusing to go to therapy.

Show threadErik Uden 🍑Jul 2
@ainmosni the GENERAL loneliness epidemic caused by atomization through neoliberalism is REAL, the specific manosphere / incel “male loneliness epidemic” is not real.
PhilmacFLy 🍺Jul 3
Show threadB.

@ErikUden @ainmosni

Toxic males: "I cannot talk emotions and personal difficulties with male friends because (gay). Instead I have to project the veneer of a strong, emotionless alpha male to the world. I am rotting inside but wouldn't even recognize it because getting in touch with my own emotions also is (gay)."

Also toxic males: "MalE LoNLIness CrIsIsss!"

Jul 3 at 12:08amWeb
Show threadCiggy Bringer of SmokeJul 3

@bhg @ErikUden @ainmosni

I do feel bad that a lot of these guys did not organically arrive at this shit on their own and basically are stooges, but fuck them on refusing to see as adults in search reason, getting it exactly, and refusing to accept it.

Show threadCiggy Bringer of SmokeJul 3

@bhg @ErikUden @ainmosni

"You cant get emotional fulfillment and acceptance being a basic hateful hump devoid of empathy" and theyre principal skinner 'no its the relationship having queer anarcho lefties that are wrong about this'

Show threadQueen of ArgyllJul 3

@bhg

Male loneliness epidemic because they're hateful immature men incapable of connection

Show threadBBJul 3

@bluberrycookie @bhg

"nobody helps us men"
"have you ever looked for help, asked for help or even accepted help in your life?"
"no"
"ok, do you want to try?"
"No"
"ok bye"
"see? nobody helps us men"

Show threadB.Jul 3
@bbacc @bluberrycookie @ErikUden Also putting some nuance here: patriarchy is forcing gender roles also on self-aware and caring men. Want better carreer options because you'll never be pregnant? Work more in a job because care work is being done by women more than by men (like it or not)? Well you often do because of the rent skyrocketed and childrearing doesn't pay the bills.
Being so busy with getting the money that you feel lonely inside because no time for friends? Yes, very often.
Show threadBBJul 3

@bhg

you're right and I get that. I get that it's not easy to deal with all the expectations linked to the gender role.
But with these expectations also come more power and wealth and I don't think most men would want to change that.
Child rearing doesn't pay the bills for single mothers either and there are a lot of them. Truly, it's hard to just be human and care for other people in our time.

@bluberrycookie @ErikUden

Show threadQueen of ArgyllJul 3

@bbacc @bhg

They can stay alone until they finally turn into real human beings <3