The UK Stop Killing Games petition has reached 100.000 signatures

https://sh.itjust.works/post/41403618

WHAAAT LETSGOOOOO DABABY. Thank you PirateSoftware for the publicity :3
And fuck you too btw PirateSoftware :)

Wait untill people realize that Ross Scott has had a running show, ‘Freeman’s Mind’, going back to basically the fucking machinima days, where he just does a playthrough of all of Half Life and voices Gordon’s inner thoughts.

Its still on his youtube channel!

We are going to need another petition to get Ross an honorary title, a goddamned bust of an upraised fist in an HEV suit, clenching a crowbar, with ‘For Exceptional Valor and Dutiful Service in the Defense of Video Gaming’ emblazoned on its base.

I remember Freeman’s Mind, but I have no idea who any of the people in those pictures are.
Ross is the dude with long hair and laser eyes.
Holy shit that’s him ?
He my hero now

I came for Freeman’s Mind, stayed for the Game Dungeon, got deadgamepilled in the process.

I highly recommend checking all of his stuff out.

Same! The next step is watching his monthly proof-of-life video chats while working on other stuff 😅
I kinda wish his next videochat is just him opening up a bottle of champagne, drinking it all without saying a word and that’s it =D
Whats wrong with PirateSoftware? He runs a ferret rescue which doesn’t claim any tax incentives and he teaches people about security and ethics, I’ve never heard of him having beef with anyone.

Yeah he seems pretty positive and helpful, so did his bias mislead him on this one?

Also I wasn’t even sure he was still a huge fan of his former employer—but now that I think of it I guess he was really pleased with his time there, cuz he’s proud of his ban wave strategies and stuff

He tends to be condescending, toxic, and dishonest. I happened to watch this video the other day that covers a fair bit of stuff including the stop killing games petitions, if you’ve got 20 minutes.

youtube.com/watch?v=R-RaQZPzhqU

Things like

  • completely misrepresenting the stop killing games initiative.
  • bitching for quite a while that “someone” pulled a mob during a world of warcraft raid causing a wipe, going back to see who it was to remove them, seeing it was himself and then justifying why it was now the right call.
  • running away from his group in world of warcraft in a fight claiming he has no mana, while he’s wasting moves to drain the last of his mana and he has ways of getting around half of it back. This was during some kind of creater guild thing where if you die you lose your character. So abandoning his team to save himself and lying about it.
  • banning/blocking everyone who criticizes or corrects him on these things
  • DMCA’d and threatened legal action on an indie dev for a parody game that included him as a cockroach.
The PirateSoftware Unraveling (ft. a Game Developer)

YouTube
That video was really good, felt kinda Drew Gooden-esque in parts.
Never meet your heroes ig

Pirate has a history of, grooming, digital labor theft, lying, sexism, scamming, being an asshole, to name a few things.

Hell his current persona isn’t even his first one. He never actually worked on blizzards security team, he was a support staff. Half his stories have been proven to be lies.

About the only thing that’s true is family connections got him a job there.

But the man his a raging narcissist and a grifter. The whole pirate software persona is just his latest grift.

Everyone has beef with him literally everyone. But he makes sure to ban from anything he can to keep them out of his chat or other places his community gathers.

Hes been grifting lying and grooming since second life. He just changes his name and moves to a new community when shit blows up in his face and it becomes too much of a problem.

His entire professional shtick is to make sure people don’t learn about his past and to lie and make himself look good

Is this about the WoW incident? Or dit something else happen?
He has made videos and numerous comments directing his audience not to sign, claiming it will kill games.
Than he has really lost it. Leaving a game that people paid for in a playable state is the least a developer/publisher can do.
Didn’t it already reach the threshold last year and the government (or the civil servant in charge of rejecting every petition) closed it saying that current consumer protection laws already apply?
My understanding is that they misunderstood the petition, so this new one is rephrased in an attempt to avoid another misinterpretation
Fingers crossed!
Politicians seem very good at misunderstanding things when it suits them.
It was extremely clear what the previous petition was, it was just they weren’t interested in doing anything so they intentionally misunderstood.
Is that why they left “from” out of the title?

They didn't close it. They provided an answer early. That as they see it, existing trade and consumer law should cover games and they don't plan on carving out extra legislation for it but they will "keep an eye on it".

Now it is over 100k, it doesn't actually mean anything more than they "might" debate it in parliament.

Now, don't get me wrong. I signed the petition, and I think they SHOULD look into it. But, my old cynical bones tell me that even if they do have a debate in parliament. It will be at a time when there will be 5 MPs in there, who will have nothing to say on the matter and it will be swept under the rug with a further canned statement drawn up by some civil servant in whitehall talking about consumer law just like the statement before.

Most western governments are on the side of industry, and that includes game developers. I cannot imagine they care about this subject and will do the bare minimum lip service to move past it.

I hope I'm wrong.

I do have a bit more hope for the European parliament. Just a little. They do seem to be a bit more pro-consumer. That is the one that matters most IMO.

I don’t think you’re wrong, and I think the EU petition will go the same way, but it’s still worth signing regardless.
As a Brit I have more faith in the EU parliament doing something good than ours.
If the EU petition makes it, then it will provide the UK petition support too as part of whatever debate goes on about it.
The UK petition ends before the EU petition so my guess is that they’ll give us some canned response before the end of the month. In their heads that will end the discussion.
Parliament will have 7 days after it closes before their planned summer recess. You think they will work that quickly to churn out a boilerplate debate?
Yeah they won’t even discuss it, we’ll just get the same boilerplate response we got last time.
Don’t stop yet! They might still remove incorrectly filed entries.
Peddle to the metal on all fronts!

Peddle to the metal

Lol, nice pun, good one.

Honestly that was a typo on my part, I’m really tired rn lol
130k now with time left. I think we good.
Awesome! Now let’s get the EU one as well, much closer than before now. (840’000)
5 minutes later and it’s 843k, almost 1k signatures per minute, not bad at all!
844k now. Wow. I wonder what caused the sudden surge? Or is it just that most momentum can be gain at the start and towards the end like with Kickstarters?
After Ross announced the campaign is dead a bunch of YouTubers (and media, I think?) picked up the topic and started spreading the word far and wide. This is the result.
Here’s what bugs: Why didn’t channels like GamerNexus and LTT cover the petition until after Louis declared it dead?

That’s actually one of the most annoying parts about the whole thing. SKG campaign has been running for what, a year now? Barely anyone with an audience cared enough to even look into it, let alone spread the news. Now that things came close to failing suddenly everyone thinks it’s an important topic and scrambled to make videos/posts/whatever. I’d like to give them the benefit of the doubt but I just don’t have that in me any more…
We could’ve been in so much better place with awareness, petitions and general sentiment if people in the industry actually cared about these things from the start.

Better late than never, I guess. I just hope there’s enough time to push through the EU petition as well.

Well, there’s at least two aspects here:

Fucking Thor, PirateSoftware.

Up untill Ross posted his ‘SKG is dead’ video… Thor had by far gotten the most views of anyone with a video discussing SKG.

And Thor… well, he was anti-SKG, and had been spreading a bunch of objectively false bullshit about it, actual FUDD.

So… about half of Ross’s video was dedicated to pointing out how Thor was wildly misunderstanding things, and fairly graciously and politely trying to correct these misconceptions.

So here’s the two sort of things at play I see, in terms of 'why sudden surge now?'

  • Thor was just shown to be objectively, factually wrong. Thus, the immediate effect of this would be to reiterate and clarify and reinforce with more specificity what SKG actually is… and that could directly convince people to give a damn.
  • But uh, almost certainly much, much more relevant

  • Ross doing (1) created an absolute drama shit storm via the way youtube works now… which is very much just drama mongers and commentators reporting on e-drama. (1) kicked off an actual, honest to god, truly viral explosion of many, many people who’d basically never heard of any of this before, most dogpiling on Thor for being such a disingenuous, egotistical asshole and liar.
  • LTT likely because Linus is extremely out of touch. Like comically so.

    Game nexus likely because Steve is more focused on other sectors of the industry. He’s a hardware and news guy more then a “gaming” channel in the strictest of sense. So it just very likely slipped his radar.

    Piewdiepie made a community post yesterday supporting it and asking people to go sign if that has still something to do with it.
    Well whatever it was it seem to be working. 876k now. Crossing fingers.
    910k and going.
    He seems to be doing good stuff. Kinda giving whiplash
    2 hours later and it is 860k.
    2 more and it’s at 880k holy shit
    1hr more and its 890k
    900k
    909k now. signed ✅
    918k now. Not European, but you guys give me hope for the future :)
    924k yeah this could reach the 2 million mark