Nina Kalinina5d ago

Today I was reminded that old online chats offered context awareness for the people online: you knew you won't be a bother to a friend who has a smiley flower as a status; and you knew you might not be getting a quick reply from someone who's Away.

Today I don't even know if my friends are online or not. The messenger apps make the assumption that everyone is online, and if not, they will receive a push notification, and will reply to you as soon as possible. But this assumption is barely true. I bet it makes lives harder, especially for ND people

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Show threadJuan5d ago
@nina_kali_nina you have that in XMPP
Show threadNina Kalinina5d ago
@reidrac I wonder if the decision to implement it in XMPP was conscious, or it was just a copy of what everyone else was doing at the time. XMPP just survived since the times
Show threadJuan
@nina_kali_nina it is "presence subscription" or something like that, and you're right: it is a standard that started back then. It was "instant messaging"
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Show threadAndrés (personal views)5d ago

@reidrac @nina_kali_nina Teams has something similar but I have been using it for two months and not sure what the Icons mean.

Find it interesting that Signal.org that AFAIK uses the same protocol as WhatsApp allows to schedule messages. Telegram could schedule as well. Outlook emails also offer you to delay post if person is away.

But WhatsApp does not have the delay feature. Maybe because it's business model is Mata data and this removes purity from the data?

Show threadNina Kalinina5d ago
@amunizp @reidrac I wonder how Signal and Outlook implement the feature; could it be that they simply don't send a push?
Show threadKiran Castellino 5d ago
@nina_kali_nina @amunizp @reidrac I don't know about Signal, but Outlook on the Web will delay delivering a message until the set time is reached (the email will hang out in your drafts folder until then). If the recipient is on a different mail server, the message will not be forwarded by your mail server until the set time. Outlook for Windows will keep the message in your outbox until the set time if you use the built-in scheduled send function, but it also supports the Exchange Server scheduled send mentioned above.
Show threadGe0rG5d ago

@reidrac
It was there from the beginning in 1999, so I guess it was largely a copy of what was there in other systems.

Ironically, I'm on DND 95% of the time because I'm putting the phone into silent mode. Implementing that sync seemed like a big thing to me back then... a decade ago.
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