[Video] BBC cuts away during pro-Palestine musicians Kneecap. The followup act Bob Vylan invents a new chant on live TV

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[Video] BBC cuts away during pro-Palestine musicians Kneecap. The followup act Bob Vylan invents a new chant on live TV - Lemmy.World

Lemmy

What a hateful person.
I feel like wishing people who are purposefully murdering children would die is not hateful and actually a pretty moral stance
I feel like wishing people to die at all is a pretty immoral stance, but you obviously have your own version of morality where killing people is justifiable, so you do you I guess.

So in your mindset, there’s zero point where killing is “justifiable”?

I’m legitimately asking here.

In a perfect world, people would respect boundaries, not start war, or genocides to further their own beliefs.

What do you propose people facing extinction do? Parlay?

That’s a lot of words to avoid acknowledging your own moral corruption for openly calling for people to be killed. Go troll someone else, you hateful, violent prick.

Troll? You haven’t answered either of my questions? Lmao. Not everything is black and white my guy.

Again, I am legitimately curious what your opinions about this are.

You can sling insults all you want. It doesn’t further your argument in any legitimate way.

I don’t answer your questions because you’re disingenuous in asking them. Palestinians kill Israelis, giving them a justification for killing the Palestinians, which they do, giving the Palestinians a justification for killing Israelis. Either killing others because they are killing you is justified, or it’s not. But if you’re going to argue that it’s justified, then it’s justified for everyone. When you pick and choose which killers’ justifications you want to defend, you’re disguising a distinction that’s not really rooted in the act of killing, but in some other criterion (racism, maybe?).

I am not disingenuous in asking them.

I’m not even necessarily talking about the current situation here.

I’m asking you, where your line in the sand is.

If someone was in your home, threatening your life, or your loved one’s lives, and they absolutely were not empty threats, would violence to the point of killing be “justified”?

For example, should the Ukrainians not defend their sovereignty, on their own soil, because killing at all is immoral?

You came at this with a black and white statement, but there are nuances to the world that shape the decisions outside of a binary “they killed/didn’t kill”

If one side kills 100 for each one of their own killed there’s a big difference. Other factors to consider is when your land is blocked off from the outside world by land, sea and air and being routinely invaded. The Geneva convention says there is a right to resist occupation on top of that which Israel did sign.
Again, that’s all just rationalizing killing. If one side can come up with a justification for killing, any other group can come up with their own justification, and they’re equally legitimate because they’re equally subjective.