Google's emissions are up over 50%, Amazon builds huge data centers powered by 75% natural gas.

Remember all those posts telling us that "AIs climate impact isn't that bad" supported by some really funky math/perspective and/or numbers Sam Altman invented?

Here's the actual impact.

"AI" is a fossil fuel technology.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/24/technology/amazon-ai-data-centers.html?unlocked_article_code=1.SU8.2JRa.e3Ju6r_pL1Im

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/27/google-emissions-ai-electricity-demand-derail-efforts-green

At Amazon’s Biggest Data Center, Everything Is Supersized for A.I.

On 1,200 acres of cornfield in Indiana, Amazon is building one of the largest computers ever for work with Anthropic, an artificial intelligence start-up.

The New York Times

@tante

Good news for the European Union and it's future with AI

"With its decarbonized, abundant electricity supply, expanding high-voltage electric grid and more than 30 ready-to-use, low-carbon AI sites throughout the country, France is poised to become one of the world’s greenest leaders in artificial intelligence."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2025/02/28/when-medical-ai-starts-getting-better-than-human-doctors/

When Medical AI Performs Better Than Human Doctors

We are at a tipping point when AI can perform better than human doctors in certain important tasks.

Forbes
@hadon France has the problem of creating a lot of their power in nuclear power plants that they have to shit down in the summer cause rivers are too hot to cool them
@tante
That happened once (I believe it was in 2022 ) because there was not enough rain during that year. So, it's not a problem (it's not chronic).
In fact, if you check facts for this year, water levels were already great in mars:
https://www.terre-net.fr/irrigation/article/879837/france-les-nappes-phreatiques-plutot-bien-remplies-a-la-sortie-de-l-hiver
Un niveau satisfaisant pour les nappes à début mars 2025

Les nappes phréatiques de France métropolitaine terminent l'hiver avec un niveau majoritairement satisfaisant, malgré des pluies moins abond...

Terre-net.fr

@hadon @tante It’s becoming chronic because of climate change: long periods of heat, drought, winters without enough snow in the mountains, etc.

This ist now, 3 days ago: independent.co.uk/news/world/e… and bloomberg.com/news/articles/20… etc.

Climate collapse doesn’t happen with a single BOOM. It happens by more and more „smaller“ catastrophes within increasingly shorter intervals.

Power cuts during a 40°C heat wave are one of those catastrophes.

Heatwave: Warning issued for nuclear power production at Bugey plant in France as temperatures soar

Temperatures of up to 38C are expected in the area

The Independent
@jaddy @tante
The reason why they may lower production, it's because France has high environmental limits to protect flora and fauna. It's not due to some sort of nuclear catastrophe danger, it's just that France is very protective with its wildlife.

@jaddy @tante
"Power plants draw in cold water, use it to cool nuclear reactors and spent fuel storage pools, and then release it hotter.

However, this hot water discharge is subject to strict temperature limits to protect flora and fauna – an unusual rise in water temperature, even by a few degrees, is highly detrimental to aquatic biodiversity."
https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/entreprises/energie/le-rhone-trop-chaud-pour-les-centrales-nucleaires-edf-alerte-sur-de-possibles-baisses-de-production-des-mercredi-prochain_AD-202506190560.html

Le Rhône trop chaud pour les centrales nucléaires: EDF alerte sur de possibles baisses de production dès mercredi prochain

EDF prévient de possibles baisses de production dans le parc nucléaire à partir de mercredi en raison de la canicule.

BFM BUSINESS

@hadon @tante Protecting the biodiversity is great. But the result is the same: The major power source will have to reduce output and probably cut of electricity for somehow less important consumer - in midst of a heat wave.

Or they’d trash the limits - and the fauna and flora -, because putting more heat into the ecosystem in the midst of an environmentally stressful heat wave would cause even more damage.

But there’s also a technical limit. The cooling system has a minimum necessary temperature difference, determined by the amount of heat it must convey, the capacity of the pipes and pumps and the amount of water available. The hotter the intake water, the more water is needed for the same amount of heat. Roughly: Cooling is a relation of amount of water : temperature difference : time.

If the rivers are too warm and_or there’s not enough water and_or the pipes and pumps are not big enough, the system can’t get rid of enough heat and the plant has to reduce output.

So, the risk (and days) of power outages will rise with increasing temperatures; see climate stripes. And many rivers will have increasingly less water because of less snow in the mountains in winter. Human made climate change at work.

Now, what will you do? Trash the temperature limits and „bouillabaisse“ the rivers? Build larger cooling systems? Get a lot more cooling water from -ah- where-ever?

Or invest in the cheapest source of electric power generation like the rest of the world, which is above all neutral to earths heat system, produces no extremely dangerous waste (which nobody knows where to store safely for a million years), etc?

Now, should we begin talking about the age of the NPPs in France? About the immense costs of nuclear power that could never compete to market prices, always needed hidden state funding and price guaranties (i.e. tax payers money…), and is now way off compared to PV and wind power?

Read the World Nuclear Industry Status Report, worldnuclearreport.org/World-N… The chart on page 371. Or if you don’t believe them, read the same conclusions at Lazard, an international investment bank. As of now, nuclear is an economical and environmental disaster. The single reason to do it from the beginning till now despite all rational reasoning was access to nuclear weapons.

OTOH, solar plus storage is now cheaper, climate neutral, produces much less waste (which is handable) and is decentralized, therefore providing more stable power supply during increasing numbers of natural disasters (heavy rain, etc). Plus: It’s way faster to install per GW than nuclear.

(((

@jaddy @tante
The loss of electricity is negligible, it doesn't represent even 1% of annual production, in average it represents just 0.3% of annual production, at a time where it's less needed too.

"According to the group, since 2000, losses in nuclear production due to environmental causes (high temperature and low river flow) have represented on average 0.3% of the annual production of the nuclear fleet."
https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/entreprises/energie/le-rhone-trop-chaud-pour-les-centrales-nucleaires-edf-alerte-sur-de-possibles-baisses-de-production-des-mercredi-prochain_AD-202506190560.html

Le Rhône trop chaud pour les centrales nucléaires: EDF alerte sur de possibles baisses de production dès mercredi prochain

EDF prévient de possibles baisses de production dans le parc nucléaire à partir de mercredi en raison de la canicule.

BFM BUSINESS
@jaddy @tante
And anyhow, electricity consumption in France is lower during summer, so, it's usual to lower production.
It's also for that same reason (lower consumption) that maintenance work is scheduled during the summer season.