Emory
@nazokiyoubinbou @arstechnica honestly for me it's a much better argument to make about the controller support. especially on valve hardware. my g-d it was agony. at one point i was using a dual sense controller to my fscking steamdeck. embarassing. and i didn't know about Heroic Launcher and Steam doesn't tell me that either so if i still had a steamdeck i'd be all over that cuz it's bsttlEye i believe. i had to disable a kernel flag for windows 11 to run it. assholes.
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Ars TechnicaJun 25
Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds
Lenovo Legion Go S gets better frame rates running Valve's free operating system.
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/06/games-run-faster-on-steamos-than-windows-11-ars-testing-finds/?utm_brand=arstechnica&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social
Show threadHeddersJun 25
@arstechnica I mean ... yes? Is anyone surprised by this? Win11 is a dog.
Show threadEmoryJun 27
@hedders @arstechnica i can't believe i'm saying this but i disagree. i'm a since-1984 mac user that loathes windows but i use it regularly and windows 11 is the best product redmond ever shipped other than the original xbox.
Show threadHeddersJun 27

@emory I'd say that goes to Windows 2000 (showing my age there).

I just can't stand all the bloat, the nagging, the ads, the constant demand for feedback, the shoving of OneDrive and 365 down one's throat, the wildly inconsistent UI ... to say nothing of all the AI stuff it keeps shoehorning in there.

Show threadEmoryJun 27
@hedders i mean i don't see any ads? i don't know what the heck people are complaining about ads for. i have a windows 11 workstation install and i use ollama lmstudio arc warp vscode pieces terminal edge-dev steam 1password wsl2 docker tailscale apollo/sunshine chiaki (ps streaming) and perplexity. i turned off the clickbait news thing they put in the left of the taskbar is that what people are talking about? i use ublock origin in my browsers and my household DNS uses cloudflare's .3 upstream.
Show threadHeddersJun 27
@emory Is your system Win 11 Pro by any chance? I think a lot of the ads and nagware isn't in that (or is disabled easily through InTune).
Show threadEmoryJun 27
@hedders i use Workstation it was a $200 upgrade so you may have identified why i don't see nags but also i've used a pretty slick method to slipstream an ARM windows 11 vm on apple silicon for UTM that gave me the impression i could tailor every single block of data on the resulting OS image. i don't know if intune is generally available even but it'd be smart if it was especially since apple's abandoned their leadership position on MDM parameters and features for several years i guess now!
Show threadHeddersJun 27
@emory I think that's probably why - Workstation doesn't have a lot of the more consumer-focused BUYBUYBUY stuff in it.
Show threadEmoryJun 28

@hedders alright my skepticism is withdrawn. my build procedure for vms trims out many things and i can use sunshine or the vnc console so i don't even need rdp licenses there.

i just stumbled into making those images in the way i would want to make them probably because i end up in a funnel of privacy-&-security-favorable repos and guides. i bet it's because i have an "open all the `brew home`s from all new forms and casks every time i compulsively type `brew update`!? that's probably it, 💯😂

Show threadEmoryJun 27

@hedders the feedback thing i've got coming cuz i run insiders occasionally, so i told them i'd give feedback.

the UI shit is out of control no argument there. the g-ddamned backup and restore tool is called "Backup for Windows 7 and 8" or some shit lololol how the hell they've let that continue is beyond me. onedrive is tightly integrated but i accept that on macOS with iCloud and i still use Dropbox and OneDrop on everything anyway so that doesn't annoy me either.

that ui thing though wow

Show threadUSB Type-Steve Jun 25
@arstechnica Title needs clarifying. Saying they run "faster on SteamOS" implies there's an issue where the games aren't running at the speed they should run (like running a 90s DOS game on modern hardware where the game runs too fast due to being CPU-bound). Probably should have said "games perform better" instead.
Show threadQueJun 25
@USBTypeSteve @arstechnica I don’t know, at this point I might actually classify windows 11 as a problem.
Show threadEmoryJun 27
@USBTypeSteve @arstechnica the only metric they used was framerate so i kind of think 'faster' is more apt than 'performance since they didn't even get into how the game played and how great it looked and how immersive it was for the player. it's straight up just fps. it's a lazy article i'll say that. i'm kind of surprised they posted it.
Show threadTwoToneTerryJun 25
@arstechnica the question is when will Steam drop a fully baked image to use on PCs?
Show threadKing_DuckZJun 25
@arstechnica probably Windows being too busy under the hood taking screenshots of everything
Show threadPedro CelestinoJun 26
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