If you can't even do that much wait til I tell you about your obligations under the GDPR and or the DMCA as a live service provider, which are far more onerous than simply "please have some kind of end-of-life service sunset plan"

@eniko making an mmo has some pretty wildly diverging degrees, many of which are more or less easily achievable by indies. The easiest example would be something like elden ring, the tech there could be applied to all kinds of games and is entirely tractable to implement.

@eniko the tricky part as always is going to be what you rely on to implement the server stuff, and how well engineered it is with respect to third parties running servers.

@eniko tbh my main issue with the whole thing is how vague it is, and I don't see any possible concrete version of the idea that would actually be effective. Plus it's a huge amount of legal work to try and resolve an issue that more or less never actually happens. Like, have you ever owned a game that stopped working due to an online requirement? Mostly I think it'd affect mobile games, and they literally are all MMOs so idk.

@dotstdy it's vague because the petitioners are not the ones who make new law, the EU is

@eniko "and I don't see any possible concrete version of the idea that would actually be effective"

@eniko like it's really simple in the cases where you're talking about a single monolithic server which doesn't interact with any first parties, doesn't use any third party libraries that are not distributable, and doesn't contain anything that's likely to cause you more issues down the line (people typically don't re-write their servers every game). But none of that is really how mobile MMOs are architected for example, they're all micro services in the cloud.

@eniko is it fine to dump a set of binaries that requires access to a shitton of gcp api endpoints? Binaries that may also just stop working if gcp decide to change their bullshit next year? One that no longer works because the entire system is based on top of first party authentication for user management? One that also uses some other library for networking that you'd have to license in order to run the server? Super hard for me to see how you'd make that work.