@celeste_42bit A woman told me this story about a larger group of friends (15-20 people) who regularly met and went for dinner together, mostly men, but also a few women.

One of the men always made some misogynistic jokes and the other men didn't say anything for some time.

Then, two of the men stood up and said if this doesn't stop, they're gonna leave the group. It didn't stop ("come on, he is just joking"). The two men left. The women left. And now the group is being dissolved as such because that asshole wouldn't stop ("But I am just joking").

And yes, the women there did complain about it before the two men started complaining, but nothing changed until those two men just left the group - as they said they would if the misogynistic jokes don't stop.

Learnings for me was:

  • It doesn't work if the women complain
  • It only needs one or two men to bring a big change in a large group
  • And that change is lasting
  • And for background: those two men are just the most cis het men I know. It has nothing to do with your gender or sexuality, it has everything to do with being a decent and kind human being.

    @PierreM