Just saw this scrolling through Facebook. I don't know anything about the matter, but my point remains valid: using other people's platforms does not and never will guarantee the safety of your data.

@_elena 's video is extremely relevant: https://tube.bsd.cafe/w/64VuNCccZNrP4u9MfgbhkN

#OwnYourData

@stefano

Somewhere in-between genuine compassion and schadenfreude, there's "brah, you shoulda known."

It's tiring to see people legitimise such terrible platforms by continuing to use them.

@rl_dane @stefano Question is, why are Linux Fans using FaceTube instead of their own Fedi instance? Don't appear to be Linux/Open Source fans to me.

Plenty of forum software out there, surely someone is got the chops and hosting to be able to deal with low flow traffic (indicated by the actual ability to moderate, according to them).
@stefano A bunch of trans groups, including transgender shitposting and several of its moderators, all got nuked too. They say it was a mistake but have gotten zero word on anything being restored.
@stefano
I don't think they should complain if they use Facebook. ...
@stefano @_elena I was one of the members. Really regret it.

@stefano @_elena

They say this like they are surprised. I’m always mystified why people use Facebook or exclusively create content for YouTube. It’s like they don’t understand they can yank it. They can control it. They can delete it at any point, and you have no recourse at all.

@stefano
Feel bad for them, but to add to your point: doing work like moderation for a group like this, and even joining and posting is doing unpaid work for Meta. @_elena

@stefano @_elena

Easy to talk about boycotting the bastards, hard to do it when they're allowed to monopolize fucking everything.

I'm not saying you're wrong; just saying it's hard to do. The bastards made sure of it.

@FatherEnoch @stefano @_elena Hm, why didn't the group stick to NNTP? 🤔
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Sporadic reminder to do a #backup of your #Mastodon account (i.e. request an #archive from your instance)! Even in the Fediverse servers crash and instance admins turn rogue, and all of a sudden you may be left with nothing but the last archive.org snapshot of your account, so... request your archives, folks!

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I wonder if there is an easy way to automate this. By easy I mean something that doesn’t require my own instance or installing some other container image to do the downloads for me.

@stefano @_elena Time to take back control! You're Linux guys, after all, and do know better.

But, on the upside, you already found the way to Fediverse.

@stefano a group with 350 thousand members seems unfathomable. 😳

I've heard about multiple such group deletions. Honestly these groups are the only thing I miss. They remain the only game in town after FB killed all mailing lists and web forums. It's odd now seeing them going against their own prey^Husers.

@stefano if only they knew someone who could have set up a server instead of using Facebook… 🙄
@stefano @_elena They were warned. It happened in January 2025, something about Malicious Software. If it happened once it could happen again. https://www.pcmag.com/news/facebook-accidentally-blocks-users-from-posting-about-linux
This has been going on for at least a few months. Some Facebook pages for high profile Linux blogs got taken down, I forget which ones now. Despite Facebook being heavy users and even contributors to Linux, the word Linux seems to have made it on to a list of banned "hacker related" words in their internal moderation systems...

CC: @[email protected]
Facebook flags Linux topics as 'cybersecurity threats' — posts and users being blocked

DistroWatch is one of the largest affected organizations.

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@sam this article is wrong, it wasn't Linux it was the page of a single blog. And the part they mentioned users because of Linux ended up being bs.
@_elena

@sam thank you!

@distrowatch please, did what's described (in the Tom's Hardware article) ever reach a conclusion that was satisfying, or less astounding?

@_elena https://www.facebook.com/groups/linux.fans.group is present with 373 thousand members, so I guess that deletion (if that's what it was, technically) was reverted.

This is not to promote Facebook, I'm simply late to the party.

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@grahamperrin @sam @_elena @stefano After about a week of appeals and protests we were told users were able to post about Linux and link to DistroWatch in most regions.

It seems each Facebook region/country has its own rules though so whether we were blocked (and whether the term "Linux" was blocked) would depend on where you live.

@stefano @_elena

This is so FAFO it borders on idiocy

@stefano @_elena A really decent, performant #OpenSource forum software such as #Flarum, #PhpBB, or #Discourse, is right there. Do any of your 350k subscribers have a #RaspberryPi 5 lying around (wth an NVME drive), and have expertise? Flarum or PhpBB would run performantly on it for a huge number of concurrent users. Where is your #OpenSource spirit, to take things into your own hands?
@stefano @_elena
Did they not know that Linux is a security threat?
To Facebook...
@stefano @_elena a Linux facebook group? Just trying to wrap my head around that. 🤯
@readbeanicecream @stefano @_elena I don't get it either - folk who are smart enough to install Linux (which whilst easier than before still isn't a trivial amount of effort) are usually smart enough to use forums. Also sorting out the inevitable problems that can occur with Linux (or any other OS TBH) often require detailed discussion that Facebook is pretty useless for..
@vfrmedia @stefano @_elena I can only imagine what the terminal output of some command must have looked like. No code blocks, but the laughing emoji background on the post is sure to help!
@readbeanicecream @stefano @_elena I'm on a few car-related FB groups and they are no good either for sharing detailed info, only links to stuff you can buy or sell (which is exactly how Meta wants it, but not as much good for Linux)

@stefano @_elena
Dumping Meta should have been a no-brainer for a long time now, but when it came out that they played a pivotal role in the Rohingya genocide, anyone with a conscience should have dropped them. They haven't made any meaningful changes to prevent that from happening again.

The idea of having any complicity in enabling Meta to fuel genocide is abhorrent to me. And yet, people feel like the hassle of moving platforms is too big a price to pay to stop supporting a genocide machine?

Seriously, what in the factual fuck.

@stefano Reminds me of my big long rant in 2022 entitled "Never Build Your House On Someone Else's Land"

https://www.erosblog.com/2022/02/07/someone-elses-land/

"Never Build Your House On Someone Else's Land" - ErosBlog

Last week Facebook had a terrible earnings call and lost a whole bunch of its market cap. They forgot Bacchus's First Rule. They "went mobile" and forgot Apple and Google make the rules there. Oopsie!... Tagged: sex blogging, Bacchus's First Rule, pornocalypse

ErosBlog

@stefano @_elena

All those FLOSS projects stupidly using discord as their main (too often only) communication channel, take a look at this and think about what you are doing.

@stefano
Make a home here. pn the fediverse. Ill come.

@stefano @_elena Why would tech savvy people be running a group on farcebook when they could just buy some cheap web hosting and set up their own forum. It takes 5 minutes and you have 100% control, and hosting is cheap. Even better, forum systems have actual usable search functions, not the shitty FB system which is as much use as tits on a bull...

How many groups does this have to happen to before people start to get the message?