Matthew GarrettThere's a lot of noise around Linux accessibility software. I used to work on that and I have opinions: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/72379.html
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@dottorblaster @mjg59 openbsd used to release a song with every release. These days, sometimes there are multiple songs for a single release or multiple releases with no song. The website also has an illustration and context for the song: https://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#62
Jason J.G. White@mjg59 @matt I use Orca to make a Linux desktop environment accessible. As of GNOME 48, thanks to excellent development work, I’m running a Wayland session without noticing any substantive differences from the accessibility I used to have in an X11 session. I appreciate there are still some missing features to be worked out, but nothing that I personally rely on under normal circumstances is missing at this stage of development. I hope the work continues and that other desktop environments take it up.
The Yangsi Michael Dillon@anantagd @mjg59 @matt The “missing features” refer to the Wayland transition. I happen to disagree with you regarding Orca in general, but that isn’t the question presently under discussion. The main missing feature I am aware of is that simulated pointer events (i.e., simulated mouse clicks) aren’t available in Orca under Wayland sessions, but are supported by X11. Corrections are welcome if this limitation no longer holds, as I haven’t kept up with all of the discussions taking place. As a more general comment, and as an observer of Orca development for many years, I note that most of the bugs turn out not to be in Orca, but instead reside in GUI libraries, desktop environments or applications. Orca itself is well maintained and has undergone worthwhile development recently. The problem is that bugs and regressions in desktop environments and applications are either not addressed or not resolved quickly enough. We need more development effort in accessibility across those components.
Patrick Smyth@jason @mjg59 @matt Sorry if it's off-topic, but what is the state of magnification on Gnome/Wayland? Excited that Orca is working well but still apprehensive about a switch. The items I need to replace are utilities based on screenshots, the magnifier, color inversion (I use xrandr-invert), and hotkeys, in addition to Orca.
@vol4life8657 @mjg59 @matt It's currently Arch Linux, but I also used Debian for many years before installing Arch to keep up to date with the latest packages more reliably than by running Debian Unstable.
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Sebastian Dröge 🍵@mjg59 That last paragraph can also be extended to many other topics
@mjg59 your final remark: I care because I would like to use linux as a blind computer user, but I can't because fundamentally, it's inaccessible to me. Even and also today, in 2025.