I'm deadly serious when I say that in response to fascists wanting technology fueled corporates states we cannot cede progress in science and technology as an inherently right wing goal

@left_adjoint It's the definition we're arguing about.

Anybody trying to get primitivist about it is getting real close to asking for a primitive answer and I'd rather leave that to the other fuckers...

@left_adjoint To put it another way, obviously the fash want it for power, but it's concentration of power that's the problem, the solution is not helplessness
@left_adjoint Also, y'know, this was a mistake I strongly suspect was actively encouraged in the 60s and 70s