Marielle Quinton5d ago
If the city is so worried about the landfill reaching capacity that they're thinking about building an incinerator, why don't they have recycling in all parks?
Show threadJohn Francis đŸĻĢ🇨đŸ‡Ļ🍁đŸ’ĒâŦ†ī¸5d ago

@mariellequinton I think the questionable viability of plastics recycling is part of it. At least with the system as setup now, wide open to all kinds of virgin plastics for all uses, no obligations for recycled content, no obligations for material to return to the originators, and thus insufficient interest in all those collected plastics.

People want everything else in that can because they can make $ off it...metals, organics.

Show threadMarielle Quinton5d ago
@johnefrancis PET plastic is arguably the only plastic that actually gets recycled. Especially the clear, uncoloured stuff. Earlier in the week the other garbage can in the park was overflowing with cans, mostly beer cans due to the weekend baseball tournament. Putting stuff in the landfill or incinerating it is not better than recycling it.
Show threadJohn Francis đŸĻĢ🇨đŸ‡Ļ🍁đŸ’ĒâŦ†ī¸5d ago

@mariellequinton I definitely want to see more plastic recycled and less produced, but it's not happening any time soon under current Ontario or Canada govts. There need to be carrots and sticks to make it work, and those don't seem to be coming, thanks to the oil lobby.

I'd rather see it incinerated vs. landfilled.

Show threadMarielle Quinton5d ago
@johnefrancis They could easily take the beer store idea and bring back returnable and refillable glass bottles, but instead we have this.
Show threadJohn Francis đŸĻĢ🇨đŸ‡Ļ🍁đŸ’ĒâŦ†ī¸5d ago

@mariellequinton yes, much better can be done at the provincial/national level.

Like with everything else, the federal and provincial govt set the table for industry and then leave cities with terrible choices to deal with it. Bury it, burn it, pay someone to take it away.

Gordarnit5d ago
Show threadMarielle Quinton
@johnefrancis Well, the city *could* at least do things like installing outdoor water fountains in parks and provide recycling. They aren't even doing the very minimum. They're wringing their hands and blaming upper government levels. But they could be doing all they can and then telling the province and feds to step up. Instead it's just the fancy parks that get this so they present the illusion of doing something.
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Show threadHuman 35005d ago
@mariellequinton This is the government the city voted for. Enjoy your articially low taxes. @johnefrancis
Show threadJohn Francis đŸĻĢ🇨đŸ‡Ļ🍁đŸ’ĒâŦ†ī¸5d ago

@human3500 @mariellequinton taxes aren't even that low - just wasted on the wrong things, like a police force that abuses poor people, maintaining a massive road network, and padding the wallets of property developers and sports team owners.

Indeed, what people voted foe. 🤷‍♂ī¸

Show threadJohn Francis đŸĻĢ🇨đŸ‡Ļ🍁đŸ’ĒâŦ†ī¸5d ago

@human3500 @mariellequinton $1400 for full urban transit levy, which went up $1000 last year as the city decided to redesignate my area inside the UTA, but won't add a bus stop closer than 1km away.

$1100 for policing that let fascists occupy the city for 2m, and who can't enforce much besides giving the homeless a hard time. No enforcement on the roads. There's not normally a cop within 10km.

Show threadHuman 35005d ago

@johnefrancis I used to have to walk about 800 metres for a bus and I'm in the old city of Ottawa. So you're now getting my old treatment.

How about that storm water fee ? @mariellequinton

Show threadJohn Francis đŸĻĢ🇨đŸ‡Ļ🍁đŸ’ĒâŦ†ī¸5d ago
@human3500 @mariellequinton I'm OK with the $160/year. Paid nothing for a while. The storm sewer here was put in under the local improvement process along with sani sewer, so we paid a big chunk of the infra. When it breaks or needs cleaning, I expect the city to show up and fix it.
Show threadJohn Francis đŸĻĢ🇨đŸ‡Ļ🍁đŸ’ĒâŦ†ī¸5d ago
@human3500 @mariellequinton they might need to visit soon, as a neighbour's house build blocked one of the inlets with topsoil, so it needs a cleaning or the road floods.