[Video] Missiles barrage hits Tel Aviv

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I’d have ever so much more sympathy if they hadn’t just spent over a year genociding Palestine…

You know, the reason we have sympathy for Palestinian civilians is because they’re not responsible for the actions of Hamas on Oct 7, even if many of them were brainwashed to be happy about the massacre. Please apply the same logic to sympathizing with civilians who are not responsible for Likud’s actions, a large proportion of whom have also been protesting against the party in the past year.

The current Israeli administration is ruthless and bloodthirsty and it’s diminishing the should of it’s people. That being said, I don’t think any major power in the world, including China and Russia are sad to see Iran’s nuclear program get set back.

We support Hamas, and we support its brave fight against the colonialism, we feel bad about them because we support the colonized against the colonizer, now gtfo
I am staunchly anti-colonization and support resistance against oppression. I also believe there are people who are innocent and who have no choice in where they’re born or where their parents move them to, who generally go about life fairly normally with all the complexity (and tacit complicity) human life and circumstance brings–civilians. I do not support what Hamas did on Oct 7 and I certainly don’t support what the IDF has done in Gaza over the last year or the ongoing settlement in the West Bank. You and I live on the same planet and I will love your right to life always, but I will not gtfo just because I disagree with unfettered self-righteous bloodlust.
I fully support a million oct.7
For an instance nominally based on worker solidarity and elevating the proletariat, everyone sure is pretty quick to throw that out the window for tribalism and nationalism
There’s no such thing as a settler proletariat or worker, 50% of work as IDF the other 50% work as police

Here’s a fun fact, did you know that 65 other countries also have mandatory military service, including Iran? Being a class traitor by the law of the state doesn’t make you not proletariat.

Abandoning massive chunks of workers based only on their place of birth or the bubble of propoganda they live in is the opposite of every reputable leftist ideology. If your empathy for the people crushed under the rubble of an apartment complex depends on the flag out front then just admit you’re a frothing nationalist and stop pretending.

Yeah, mandatory military service, not mandatory baby killer service, No such thing as a settler comrade or a settler proletariat, a motherfucker who goes into Palestinian homes kills or kicks out the occupants and takes it as his deserves to get crushed by an airstrike.

Total population of Israel: 9.2 million Total IDF personnel (including reservists): 500k Total settler population: 700k Total Isreal police force: <30k

But sure, let’s glass them all. Especially the 86% that have no active involvement with what’s going on. You sound like a goddamn fool.

I’d be fine if the apartheid government willingly dissolved and created a new system where the genocide of Palestinian people wasn’t the goal. A government that didn’t attack it’s neighbors on a whim.

This could be bloodless, but unfortunately the state will not allow that

Nobody expects the state to relinquish power without violence, but that doesn’t mean it’s OK to cheer clips of massive explosions within lethal range of civilian houses.

I have yet to see anyone share hard evidence that these are targeted at military areas, let alone actually hitting them. Just a bunch of equivocation about military reserves and public opinion polls. Isreal rightfully caught shit for their pager attack being too indiscriminate but an explosion clearing half a city block isn’t?

I think you’re forgetting differences in military capabilities.

Israel can be more selective in it’s targets in Gaza, but they deliberately chose hospitals. Iran, the nation defending itself, has to send large missile barrages to try and break through the iron dome defense. Those will be less precise

I don’t see how that makes a difference? Israel bombing civilians with precision doesn’t make imprecise bombing of civilians more acceptable. Everyone ends up just as dead. It just makes it more palatable for people who value retribution above civilian lives.

So what Iran is just supposed to let Israel continue unprovoked attacks? Yeah that’s a fucking stupid take.

Also the US was the invader during the Vietnam War so that’s a bad example all around

When did I say that? All I want is for all belligerents to be held to the same standard. Show me the evidence that these missiles are falling on targets with strategic importance; show me that they’re making efforts to not waste human lives. It’s clear that Israel’s attacks are not and they’re rightly called out for it. Why is Iran above the same scrutiny?

US was the invader during the Vietnam War so that’s a bad example all around

Why is it a bad example? Does being the defender in a war make you immune to war crimes? It’s indiscriminate killing of non combatants either way.