Jon Udell

If you only read the NYT you would not know that #NoKings happened.

That's OK. Nobody who saw the turnouts everywhere, and felt the energy, needs validation from the "paper of record" and maybe it's better this way. We are building a movement that doesn't depend on them.

Jun 15, 2025 at 5:25pmWeb
Show threadJon UdellJun 15, 2025

It is amazing though. Try searching both NYT and WAPO for NoKings.

NYT: Wordles

WAPO: Protests

I unsubbed WAPO over the endorsement debacle and gave NYT another chance. Ugh.

Show threadBill SeitzJun 15, 2025
@judell it's like the DINOs taking turns crossing back and forth the aisle. Stop falling for it.
Show threadJon UdellJun 15, 2025
@billseitz Yeah I should just cut the cord, build alternative capability, and let @jeffjarvis and @dangillmor keep an eye on the dinosaurs.
Show threadUwe TrenknerJun 15, 2025

@judell Journalists tend to write things “the correct way“. I just searched the NYT app for “NoKings” and can confirm your findings.

I then tried “No Kings” (with space) and got good results:

Show threadChristine Sætre-esqueJun 15, 2025

@utrenkner
Nice factual response FTW!

We’ve got enough actual travesties, so there’s no need to politicize the NYT sticking to the paper’s style and reference guide circa 1985.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/insider/new-york-times-stylebook.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

The Elements of the Stylebook

What is The New York Times Manual of Style and Usage? There’s more to the paper’s reference guide — established in 1895! — than you might think.

The New York Times
Show threadBodhipaksaJun 15, 2025

@utrenkner @judell I don't think it's to do with style conventions. WaPo's search field says "Ask a question or search." That suggests it's powered by AI, and that it's smart enough to parse "nokings" as "no kings." The NYT's search is just your common or garden search tool. So it's a difference in search technology.

As far as I can see, neither paper refers to these events as "NoKings" or uses hashtags. And why would they?

Show threadEric T. MacKnightJun 15, 2025
@judell Both terrible.
Show threadThree plus or minus fiveJun 15, 2025
@judell both have proven over and over that they are untrustworthy as national newspapers.
Show threadJohnJun 15, 2025
@judell no. This is just factually incorrect. I read lots of no kings coverage at nyt yesterday. Their search engine is janky though
Show threadJon UdellJun 15, 2025
@confusionanddelay Is it just the mobile home page then? I see nothing there.
Show threadJohnJun 15, 2025
@judell I was reading on mobile yesterday. They had a one of those picture scrollers plus live updates from around the country. It was never the top story because of the Minnesota killing.
Show threadJon UdellJun 15, 2025
@confusionanddelay Ok thanks. The day after is crickets though, vs elsewhere?
Show threadJohnJun 15, 2025
@judell fair, even The Economist has more the day after
Show threadJohnJun 15, 2025
@judell I see it’s all gone today. But I didn’t feel jilted by yesterdays coverage
Show threadAlan is @cogdogJun 15, 2025
@judell You’d wonder if they have windows to look out and see the crowds. All the news you feel like or don’t feel like printing.