Engineering-infused approaches to analyzing disasters are interesting, but imho, miss a lot. They frequently land on explanations like, "people don't voice dissenting opinions."

Ok, well, modern theories about how and WHY dissenting opinions do get voiced from inside of groups is more complex than that. I am tired of "groupthink" explanations that don't incorporate key features of the environment, and yeah, that includes being real about the disasters we're analyzing when they're white & male

Like, analyzing a specific managerial chain in a field that literally keeps itself segregated for decades? You think that doesn't include certain rules? Come on, that's not universal human laws of communication that represent all human beings, if you are willing to get SITUATED with the specific toxicities of a management chain in a given place why aren't you comfortable getting situated with the cultural baggage that structure brings in?

Sometimes these pieces seem to land on a model of human sociality that is fundamentally about unconscious impulses driving us into irrational behavior. That's old school and contradicted by more sophisticated social cognition work.

Explanations are incomplete when they don't push us to think, what are groups and environment*person interactions that DO create the conditions for meaningful dissent? Why do they happen in some places and not others? Your answer can't just be "people are bad"

@grimalkina i really need to sit you down with dave woods at some point :D
@Di4na I don't know who that is
@grimalkina One of the "father" of the Resilience Engineering community, who spend far too much time yelling at clouds that the dissent is usually voiced somewhere, the question is more about how as an organisation you may actually manage to foster space for dissent, act on it, make sense of it, replan from it, etc :D

@grimalkina Should you need some light reading, you might enjoy an ethnographic account of an absolutely terrible (but Boat Race-winning) Cambridge rowing crew.

Warning: I have nerdsniped multiple social scientists who row with this paper.

http://bionics.seas.ucla.edu/education/Rowing/Training_2011_05.pdf

@yvonnezlam hahah oh no, this looks great. I am putting it on my "reading with coffee" luxury reading list
@grimalkina It is AMAZING. One of my bluesky pocket friends is a political scientist. This paper kept him away from the news for a couple of hours on Friday night.