Liberals right now...

https://lemmy.world/post/31339564

Here we go again,

The Peaceful LA Protests of June, 2025 worked. We’re all talking about it now. If the LA protests weren’t peaceful, we would have different talking points for this weekend’s protests and protesters would have been killed. This administration wants this.

YSK - That there is a lot of trolling and brigading starting to happen around the LA peaceful protests to start violence. Here is a roadmap from 2015 on how they do it.: sh.itjust.works/post/39873361

Also, this:

Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change.

theguardian.com/…/protest-trump-resistance-power

YSK - That there is a lot of trolling and brigading starting to happen around the LA peaceful protests to start violence. Here is a roadmap from 2015 on how they do it. - sh.itjust.works

> Once we isolate key people, we look for people we know are in their upstream – people that they read posts from, but who themselves are less influential. (This uses the same social media graph built before.) We then either start flame wars with bots to derail the conversations that are influencing influential people (think nonsense reddit posts about conspiracies that sound like Markov chains of nonsense other people have said), or else send off specific tasks for sockpuppets (changing this wording of an idea here; cause an ideological split there; etc). > > The goal is to keep opinions we don’t want fragmented and from coalescing in to a single voice for long enough that the memes we do want can, at which points they’ve gotten a head start on going viral and tend to capture a larger-than-otherwise share of media attention. > > (All of the stuff above is basically the “standard” for online PR (usually farmed out to an LLC with a generic name working for the marketing firm contracted by the big firm; deniability is a word frequently said), once you’re above a certain size.) https://archive.is/PoUMo [https://archive.is/PoUMo]

How did they work? ICE is still in my neighborhood snatching people up

So because there isn’t immediate visible change, they aren’t effective?

The need for immediate gratification works to the favor of the authoritarian.

People are getting kidnapped in mass…yes instant gratification is necessary, this isn’t a kick the can down the road kinda situation!

The need for immediate gratification works to the favor of the authoritarian.

It’s also the same urge which draws people to authoritarianism.

Yes. The entire point of direct action is to have an immediate and noticeable effect.

A protest is meant to disrupt the status quo in such a way that the establishment is forced to meet demands or else we continue to bring things to a standstill.

If your protest is not disruptive of the status quo, it is being ignored.

Hmmmm, I wonder why…

Most GOP lawmakers plan to skip Trump’s big parade

Could it be from booing in their town halls and a huge nationwide protest?

Dude, i don’t entirely disapprove your position, but i feel like this is a really bad argument. First, because it’s only a boycott of one parade, when people get abducted and deported. Second because they only ‘plan’ or ‘say they’ll’ do it.

This does not feel like a victory at all, this feels like satisfying yourself on crumbs

They’re fucking brainwashed. They equate just protesting with some victory in their heads. No matter how small, every protest is done achievement

In the lib’s mind, protesting is not a tool, it’s the goal on itself. Just show up, wave a little flag and the bad guys will magically change their mind like it’s a fucking movie.

It’s all performative actions.

In the lib’s mind,

Are you libertarian?