Mastodawn

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Voting doesn't change anything.

*doesn't vote*

Things get worse.

*surprised pikachu*

DreamButt Jun 13, 2025

When local elections only have a 20% turnout we actually don’t know if voting works or not

teslasaur Jun 13, 2025

Yup. Thats why i say to people, vote locally or run locally. If you actually want change.

NaibofTabr Jun 14, 2025

When I was a young man, I wanted to change the world.
I found it was difficult to change the world, so I tried to change my nation.
When I found I couldn’t change the nation, I began to focus on my town.
I couldn’t change the town and as an older man, I tried to change my family.

Now, as an old man, I realize the only thing I can change is myself, and suddenly I realize that if long ago I had changed myself, I could have made an impact on my family.
My family and I could have made an impact on our town.
Their impact could have changed the nation and I could indeed have changed the world.

Rabbi Yisrael Salanter

There are two lessons here:

Start local. This will have a greater impact on your life anyway. The desire to have a large, world-affecting impact is more likely motivated by a desire for attention and recognition than it is by a desire to help other people.

You cannot force other people to change, and in fact you have no moral ground on which to expect that other people will or should behave the way that you personally think they ought to.

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That’s antiquated.

You think they’ll let you vote next time?

They could try and stop me. Difference is I wouldn’t let them.

You wouldn’t let them… What? Stop you from voting?

There are plenty of USAmericans that aren’t allowed to vote. Do you think they’re just letting the government stop them ?

Correct.

Literally what could they possibly do?

If you can’t think of anything, then i can’t help you.

If we don’t help each other we are going to lose.

You live in the us i take it. You have a constitutional right to buy weapons. Start by doing that.

Take a play from their book, if they already lie about the amount of violence being performed, you might aswell do it. They are fucking cowards. They are gambling that no one will do anything. Luigi mangione did something.

Brian Thompson’s murder might have caused claims denials to drop slightly. That’s it. Nothing fundamentally changed.

No one person, acting alone as an individual, can change anything. No matter how many guns they have.

Thats right. You need the vote.

So.

Individualist actions are pointless and accomplish nothing, we need to work together to accomplish anything.

But we need the vote to work together, and if they take away the vote then we have to work alone… what?

This requires collective actions other than voting. There are more options besides “vote” and “yolo”

If you are capable of getting people to join whatever casue you believe in, then you should probably ger on that.

CanadaPlus Jun 14, 2025

I wouldn’t recommend running unless you’re really invested in municipal issues. Most people cannot be arsed about road maintenance schedules and budgeting.