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Why did they use a pipe instead of the letter I?

| Don’t like it.

Because you would start talking about it
Yeah one of the fist ways I learned to create engagement was to fake typos / make simple grammer mistakes.
It really helps with engagement, and | fell for it.
|’m glad |’m not the only one annoyed by that.
I didn’t realize that was supposed to be an I, | thought it was being used like asterisks to indicate action.
that’s what I think it’s supposed to be, but then the middle one is missing the | so who knows

Honestly, my brain just didn’t even process it as an I. I just looked over it and started the sentences without them.

Anyway, why the fuck did they do that?

The historians had to lay that pipe somewhere

It’s not meant to be an I, it’s meant to be an action. They’re not writing “I commanded an army”, they’re writing “commanded an army”.

No, it was not a good choice. But that’s what they were probably doing.

Then it would’ve been “against her brother” though, not “against my brother”
Was it historians who were saying Cleopatra was sexy or filmmakers?
History was invented by Universal and MGM. According to Universal. Others (Paramount) claim it was invented by Paramount.

3 Antony, on the contrary, like Heracles in paintings where Omphalé is seen taking away his club and stripping off his lion’s skin, was often disarmed by Cleopatra, subdued by her spells, 957and persuaded to  p339 drop from his hands great undertakings and necessary campaigns, only to roam about and play with her on the sea-shores by Canopus and Taphosiris. 4 And at last, like Paris, he ran away from the battle and sank upon her bosom; although, more truly stated, Paris ran away to Helen’s chamber after he had been defeated; but Antony ran away in chase of Cleopatra, and thereby threw away the victory.

Plutarch was a bit of both, but that tendency has definitely existed longer than movies.

Plutarch • Comparison of Demetrius and Antony

An English translation. All of Plutarch's Lives are onsite; in turn part of a very large site on classical Antiquity.

Plutarch was a bit of a filmmaker?
He was the 200 ce version of one, anyway.
Stable and prosperous? She started with a civil war and ended by being conquered by Rome. The bit in the middle wasn’t stable either.

Getting conquered by Rome is just what you do when you live by their sea.

But yes, it was, all things are relative, and one can’t blame the beach for the tsunami.

It looks to be written by Arsinoë IV or maybe even Ptolemy XIV as it refers to «my brother», so it’s probably biased
Getting conquered by Rome was all the rage back then
Don’t historians say she probably wasn’t sexy? Just super bold which attracted powerful men, who hasn’t seen much of that back then.

She was a powerful personality. All the records indicate that she was of seemingly above average beauty standards, but nothing earth shattering.

Instead, it is claimed that her strength of personality is what attracted the powerful men in her life to her.

One theory is that she was a bit odd-looking, but pointing that out would likely result in a painful death, so everybody erred on the side of flattery.
to be fair a weird looking powerful warrior woman would give me a fucking boner of steel
This is basically how half my women ancestors got husbands, as a result I look like someone tried recreating a neanderthal and ended up with a Norse-Gael.
She had access to creams, ointments and fragrances and good sleep. She also kept ugly ass lady servants to keep the contrast in her favor.
True. She was more seductive and alluring than plain ol sexy (according to my readings).
She probably like a lot of celebrities who are average looking but over produce to look way hotter.
Cesar sang praises to her mouth, which could be interpreted to be about her actual mouth, her oratory skills, or her oral skills. Knowing how Romans loved innuendo, probably both.
Yeah, it is the exact opposite of what OP claims. Historians are basically the only ones constantly demystifying her, while her legend as a sexy femme fatale lives on in the general public mind.
All those things are pretty sexy

Nothing to me says ‘sexy’ quite like your grandad and your great-grandad being the same guy, or your (great * 5)-grandmother / grandfather being one man and woman, when most people have that responsibility spread between 64 people.

Close family. Must have made Christmas easy - having the in-laws round isn’t so bad when they’re your own blood relatives too.

Ah yes the “family wreath”

Must have made Christmas easy

Quite difficult at the time, actually.

Damn how the hell did Berenice sneak in there?
No Cleopatra VI?

Historians haven’t been able to definitively conclude whether V and VI were the same person or if VI was a child of V and older sibling to VII by extension.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra_VI

Cleopatra VI - Wikipedia

See it relative; if the other world leaders all did the same.
But think of how simple were their finances.

Yeah I can’t remember the reasoning / evidence but I do remember reading that Cleopatra was unlikely to have been beautiful or “sexy”. IIRC it’s indeed because she was likely to have congenital deformities due to inbreeding - much like those of Tutankhamen.

She was extraordinary powerful, well educated, and had a terrifying intellect. Additionally she would have bathed daily which would have been alluring in that era.

That said, there’s no shortage of other powerful Egyptian babes, Nefertiti and Hatshepsut come to mind.

Small domino: Greek bloodline fuckery.

Middle Domino: Hollywood.

Big domino: Incest porn.

Why don't you share these great history memes on historymemes?
I heard she was even her own mom
Why are there pipes (“|”) in the text? It’s throwing me

my take is that they’re trying to do the “>text” to indicate that is an action rather than words, but it formatted to a quote box

>this is what was meant

this is what happened

that’s my guess tho idk

But why is it “my brother” then? It should be “her brother”. I think they are truly fucked up I characters
I think the quotation block only ever appears in the beginning of a line.
so SPOKE command gets the output from CLEOPATRA:
It’s the letter “i” but double capitalized.

|'m guessing it’s to spur engagement.

And, we fell for |t.

I do find it hilarious that we associate sexiness with Cleopatra because of an intensive smear campaign.
I would like to know more please.
we will ruin your reputation by making you the greatest slay queen in human history…