Legit_Spaghetti6d ago

Back in '21, after we had the vaccine, there was a subreddit with a very simple premise: find social media posts of people who were anti-mask, anti-vaccine, anti-lockdown, then find the social media posts from when those exact same people caught COVID and died.

Even as they were dying, most of those people couldn't admit where they'd gone wrong. Even death wasn't enough to open their eyes.

In case you were wondering if we'll ever be able to reach some of the people who got us into this shit.

Show threadGraydon6d ago

@Legit_Spaghetti One of the things that continues to baffle me is that so much effort and intensity and time goes into "get people to admit they are wrong" (or "a bad person", or any of the variants.)

This straight up doesn't happen. People don't do that; they're generally entirely willing to die given a choice between dying and admitting they're wrong.

Whatever else you want out of the world, give this up. You can't have it and trying for it is the opposite of helpful.

Show threadRaven6676d ago
@graydon @Legit_Spaghetti maybe, but that would be very sad, good people are taught to apologize and try to make amends when they harm other people, to say that admitting fault, apologizing and restitution are no longer viable concepts in this culture, that people are fundamentally swaggering, sneering morons and there is nothing which can be done to make that better, no justice in the world to be had by anyone, is a very dark take indeed.
Show threadGraydon

@raven667 @Legit_Spaghetti Good and bad are judgements.

Other people aren't going to use your judgements of good and bad. (Nor is it proper to expect them so to do.)

Fortunately, this is not necessary.

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Show threadRaven6675d ago
@graydon @Legit_Spaghetti I fear we are treading on dril territory, just because judgments aren't some absolute fixed value doesn't make the concept of good/bad meaningless, random or arbitrary, just because some people would rather die than admit fault or make amends doesn't mean that striving for accountability and restoration is pointless meaningless self-abuse, the struggle can lead to a more kind and happy society, better, even if perfect utopia is forever out of reach.
Show threadGraydon5d ago

@raven667 @Legit_Spaghetti Like so much, the concepts of good and bad are personal.

This is widespread; "attractive" is a response, not a thing, and it's a response specific not merely to persons but to a mood and a moment of some one person. In the same way, good and bad are specific to someone's present.

Personal things do not scale to society and policy; any attempt to do so involves telling someone that, nope, how you feel about this is less important than how this person feels.