Robin BartonJun 10
@cthon1c @spencerbeswick Your violence is exactly what Trump and his ilk are hoping and planing for. He will use that as an excuse to escalate to afv's and tanks which you can't match. Democracy survives and is restored when alliances are built and peaceful protests are out in the streets day after day after day. Why use a method that has been proven to fail? Peaceful is slower and harder but more fruitful.
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@Robo105 @cthon1c @spencerbeswick Do Not Split.

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Attached: 2 images Hong Kong protestors say: "Do Not Split." Do not condemn the people on your side who embrace tactics you disagree with. Do. Not. Split. #doNotSplit

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Show threadRobin BartonJun 11
@corpsmoderne @cthon1c @spencerbeswick By that logic, no discussion can occur. This will lead to either chaos as everyone goes their own way or control by one man who enforces their ideas. Either way the state wins. The key is to develop a focused message and use civil disobedience to win over the middle ground in public opinion. Focus the message on 'Due process' we want the law followed and paint the ICE as rule breakers
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@Robo105 @cthon1c @spencerbeswick by any means: you're Canadian, I'm French. Discussions about tactics have to occur between the people who are currently defending their communities in LA. We can choose to spend our time supporting them whatever our opinion on their tactics, or nitpicking about their means.
My experience with demos in my country is that the police and the state control the level of violence, and the mass media will focus on the trashcan in fire whatever you do.
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Show threadRobin BartonJun 11
@corpsmoderne @cthon1c @spencerbeswick The protests fail again and again as they play out the same sad song of rock throwing and violence that feel exciting but accomplish little or nothing. If you want change build a compelling narrative that gains allies to fill the streets. Vague statements of 'unfair' are useless and rocks generally do not stop armoured fight vehicles. Many people are looking for a reason to support change but no focused narrative of what that means has emerged.