Trump deploys troops to crush dissent — and escalate his war on America

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Trump deploys troops to crush dissent — and escalate his war on America - Lemmy.World

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This is the point that will be referenced in history books as the beginning of the second civil war.
As if Americans won’t roll over and accept this as normal just as they have for every other batshit betrayal of their principles that’s taken place this century.

There is a point where people can’t roll over and accept it. It’s going to be when food and water scarcity becomes wider spread.

The goal for the last century was to reduce the ability for people to be self-sufficient and make them entirely reliant on an employer. When people can no longer rely on their employer for basic needs, things get fucky.

You gotta remember Americans are irrational, and largely unpredictable. In the long run, the goal of the regime will fail, but not before doing significant damage.

In 1933, many Germans also thought that things would not get that horrible. The established centrist parties believed they could keep Hitler under control - as did business leaders, unless they had already made arrangements with the Nazis to secure even greater profits. We all know how that turned out.

But since no one seems to learn from history, the danger of fascism is once again being underestimated today.

What I’m trying to say is: fight back while you still can! If this doesn’t happen soon and in an organized way, it will be too late and history will repeat itself.

I think that’s pretty likely, when I read comments like that. I just don’t think the majority of US citizens are aware of what it means to live in a dictatorship: For the rest of the world, not much will probably change, but it certainly will for those Americans who are not on the side of the fascists.

What I’m trying to say is: fight back while you still can! If this doesn’t happen soon and in an organized way, it will be too late and history will repeat itself.

Except it won’t, because this time there’s no external superpower to save us from ourselves.

What about China?

It’s not as if the US won World War II on its own. That may be what they teach in your schools, but in fact, the losses suffered by your former ally, the USSR, were many times higher.

Of course, it’s possible that Trump will come to an arrangement with Russia, especially he obviously has the same interests as Putin - but the fact is that China is the new world power.

Feel free to dismiss that as my opinion, but it’s actually true. The US may still be the strongest military power, but economically it has been overtaken by China. That’s why Trump’s import tariffs have little effect on the Chinese - it’s a power game in which the US is coming up short.

Sorry, I just reread my comment and realized how arrogant and patronizing it is

I didn’t read it that way, and frankly I agree with you about China’s economic ascendance. That said, China is still a long way from being a “superpower” in the military sense and that’s the kind of intervention that would be the parallel to nazi Germany.

China has three aircraft carriers, all diesel-fueled, the largest of which is similar in size to the ones the US was building in the ‘60s. In comparison, the US has 11 nuclear supercarriers with roughly double the aircraft capacity each, plus another 32 “amphibious warfare ships” that would be considered aircraft carriers in their own right if they were being operated by any other country.

Say what you will about carriers’ vulnerability to hypersonic missiles and such, but China would be severely limited in its ability to project power against the US mainland due to its lack of them. The chance of China liberating the US from Trump’s tyranny is absolutely 0%, and that’s before even considering whether it would actually be “liberation” or not.

America also wasn’t a military superpower at the start of WW2 other than its Navy.

That was actually a pretty significant reason that it didn’t join the war at the beginning, it simply couldn’t, the military was not ready/modernized and would not be for years.

There were all the elements it needed, eg the industry and resources, available manpower, and more importantly a military that was heading down the “correct” paths of doctrine, carrier warfare and combined arms on land.

I would say China is actually in a more ready state than America was in 1939, just not for invading America. Which is impossible, no nation can risk invading through the American Navy much less the threat of nuclear destruction.