Trump deploys National Guard after second day of Los Angeles immigration protests | CNN

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Trump deploys National Guard after second day of Los Angeles immigration protests | CNN - Lemmy.World

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“The Trump Administration has a zero tolerance policy for criminal behavior …”

Dude that’s your entire administration. Have some self-awareness, you orange, sagging, coffin dodging oxygen thief.

Who, Trump the thirty-two times felon?
Never met the guy. We’re talking the 34 felony convicted man.
Oh, right, 34 felonies. So far.
34 convicted felonies so far
Don’t forget rapist. Probably liked them young, like his buddy Epstein.

allegedly he asked epstein for a 13 year old that looked like his daughter.

vox.com/…/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-jo…

And heres a lives of the rich and famous type show where ivanka shows us her childhood bedroom. Watch her face after she shows her bed, right near the end. She looks like she’s about to fall apart.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CsxHBS89Lw

The lawsuit accusing Trump of raping a 13-year-old girl, explained

The anonymous plaintiff dropped her lawsuit against Trump, the circumstances around which have been bizarre.

Vox

Based on his comments, I don’t believe he ever had sex with her, though he very obviously wanted to. I can imagine based on her reaction in that video that he assaulted her in some way, though, like groping.

“Aides said [Donald Trump] talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside, and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that once led John Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,” Taylor wrote, recalling an alleged exchange with Kelly, who served as Trump’s chief of staff between 2017 and 2019.

“Afterward, Kelly retold that story to me in visible disgust. Trump, he said, was ‘a very, very evil man.’” source

Trump assaulted Jill Harth repeatedly in the early 1990s. On one occasion he pulled her into Ivanka’s empty room in Mar-a-Lago to try to have sex with her on Ivanka’s bed. source

Ugh. He’s such a monster.

Trump Talked About What Having Sex With Ivanka Might Be Like, Ex-Staffer Claims

The ex-president talked about his daughter's breasts and "what it might be like to have sex with her," a former Trump administration official writes in a new book.

HuffPost
Considering that he and Epstein used to fly on Trump Airlines flights with a bunch of the contestants for Trump Beauty Pagents that Trump said he liked to surprise “by opening the door while they were in the changing room,” one doesn’t have to guess too hard on that one.
It’s not just the red administration, all the government is rigged and most politicians are criminals.
You’re both sidesing sending the national guard to a left wing protest?!

Have some self-awareness

The hypocrisy is a feature, not a bug. Don’t waste your time.

It has begun. Trump unleashing the army against the population fighting against his gestapo.

I am very fearful that many protesters will be murdered in the coming days.

And things will deteriorate quickly

I expect them to switch to live ammo within the month
I think days, weeks if we’re lucky
I hope it is weeks. I am not ready for conflict, I only had two lessons regarding firearms. I will need at least a month to sometimes hit targets at 25 meters, and to find other likeminded people.
Boston Massacre 2.0?

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said in a post on X that the Defense Department is “mobilizing the National Guard IMMEDIATELY to support federal law enforcement in Los Angeles. And, if violence continues, active duty Marines at Camp Pendleton will also be mobilized — they are on high alert.” ~ABC News

They are already threatening to send in Marines…

They’ve been jerking themselves off to deploying the military against California for decades. This is their fantasy come true and they can hardly wait.
Take California, by Propellerheads

4 track album

Propellerheads
Does that source explain how they’ll circumvent Posse Comitatus?
Nope, but using active military is no different than federalized National Guard. Both are title 10 troops and the use of either is the same under under Posse Comitatus. This is already Martial Law.
You say that like Trump cares about the law or will listen to the supreme Court in the unlikely event that they agree to hear this case before he’s dead or that they rule against him. The evil rapist has been ignoring the law a long long time.
In a different article it says that he would use the Insurrection Act of 1807 so somebody cares about the law of the appearance. They’ve already listened to rulings from the courts, albeit slowly and impartially.
There’s a huge difference between respect for the law and cherry picking laws, taking them out of context and quoting them to the media. Trump does the latter, and threatens courts of law that do the former.
It’s starting!!! The downfall of democracy, we had a good run!
Did weeeeeeeee? lol

🤣

Compared of what is to come yes! But I get how you feel, things have been in decline for a long time but this is definitely going to be the darkest chapter yet.

Or its revival. This might become the spark that turns these protests into a revolution.

A new Boston massacre if you will

I honestly hope this is the case, that would clearly be the best possibly outcome.

Revolution can also be slow, especially when it comes to tech oligarchs helping to enable to current administration, they can easily help obfuscate the narrative.

Remember this, everyone. The Boston Massacre was the day that “laid the foundation for Independence.”

-John Adams, Patriot, Founding Father, and attorney who volunteered to defend the British soldiers at Boston in a court of law.

He described the patriots who were massacred and shot at as a “mob.” His arguments in court ensured that six of the eight British soldiers were acquitted, and the other two were charged with manslaughter, not murder.

Why? Because he was a traitor?

No. Because he was a Patriot. Because justice is blind. Because the people of Boston would have lynched all eight in the town square without a fair trial.

Because they were a mob, and they had every reason to be a mob. The soldiers, in turn, had genuine reason to be afraid for their lives, and there was no proof that six of those eight soldiers killed anyone that day.

Those were the arguments that a founding father and future President made in a court of law.

Even the enemy is human, and deserves a fair chance. That is what due process is. That is what justice is. That is one of the many great ideals that founded this country, and it is being ground into dust beneath the boots of Fascism.

Be patriots.

Oh, that happened the instant the SCOTUS declared the president above the law and Biden didn’t say “fuck you, idiots”, fire all the justices who ruled in favor of that decision at gunpoint, appoint all new justices in their place, and then declare that ruling void by fiat. If you’re about to say “the president can’t do that”, the SCOTUS declared the president above the law, he actually can.
It was really hard to watch. SCOTUS created this monster executive with unlimited and almost unchecked powers, Biden declared that Trump was a danger to democracy itself, and then... crickets. It was heart-breaking that he didn't even try to curb the limits of power of the Presidency by doing something SCOTUS was going to rule against, handing the next administration everything.
Well, to be fair, he did issue a bunch of flimsy ass pardons for his closest friends and family, he just didn’t do anything to help the rest of us.
Sigh, I so wish you were wrong...
Really? I think it was when they installed Bush in 2000.
It genuinely goes back to Nixon and Goldwater. This is all an evolution of the southern strategy. Get enough people to vote for one thing and everything else is on the menu.

we had a good run!

I’d rank it as ‘just OK’ compared to how the rest of the western developed world is doing and how many resources and advantages we had from the start. We can do much better next time. I think in the upcoming defederation we are not only going to let the south secede, we will insist on it. Godspeed to texas, florida, and the south.

Given the fact that the US was the first modern democracy, was born from a revolution, and was hobbled by the fucking South from day one is say it did pretty damned good. Seriously it could’ve failed as early as the whiskey rebellion but it didn’t.
The downfall of democracy is the existence of the US. The downfall of the US is the birth of democracy elsewhere.
Like there's no article of the Constitution giving right of protest.

But you dont understand one protestor littered , meaning that it is now an illegal gathering and that the thousands of people gathered are a violent mob.

Very convenient

Having seen a couple of vids from folks on the ground it seemed akin to a proper French riot. Folks lobbing bricks, makeshift barricades, vehicles burning etc.

Yeah folks may feel justified an upset but it isn’t exactly surprising when authorities crack down to restore order in such a situation.

Restore order? Those who caused disorder cannot “restore order” by causing more disorder.

Sure they can, that’s called a revolution - in that case those who caused the disorder get called “heroes” and “freedom fighters”.

If they get smushed by the current authorities coming back in force, then they get written into the history books as “rebels” or “insurrectionists”.

Winner writes the history and all that.

People don’t just instantly forget the moment after an event ends, especially now.

The point I was making, is that bringing in cops and the national guard to beat protesters does not restore order to a crisis caused by ICE kidnapping people. It is an escalation that will very likely be matched if CA hasn’t totally forgotten their past. Which they haven’t.

Read up on the '92 LA riots. Do you think US authorities are willing to use more, or less force today than then? Do you think LA civilians today have a larger, or lesser capacity for violence?

Thankfully I don’t think US authorities are anywhere close to PRC or Russia levels of force usage against civilians, but I would bet on the badges coming out on top if it came to a chicken race. That’s not to say it wouldn’t get ugly.

What you’re not understanding is that quashing a protest with force doesn’t make the anger just go away.

Thankfully I don’t think US authorities are anywhere close to PRC or Russia levels of force

The US is only trying to end Habeas Corpus, cracking down on free speech, personal and social freedoms, deploying military units in the streets, planting secret police in protests, and is currently kidnapping, disappearing, and sending people to foreign labor camps without trial while wearing masks and not giving any identifiable information… All while supporting and funding an ongoing internationally-recognized genocide.

Maybe you should be doing the reading…

What you’re not understanding is that quashing a protest with force doesn’t make the anger just go away.

Please don’t try to guess what I think, understand or don’t understand, because you are arguing against a straw man of your own making.

Given that your account is 4 days old I’m going to leave it there. I have no interest in engaging someone who may be a bad-faith troll. We can have another talk if you’re still around in a month or so.

LMAO. If you ignore the point I’m making in 3 consecutive comments, I’m going to assume you don’t understand. You should take your own advice, you literally told me to go read about the riots!

And surely you’ve heard about about lemm.ee and slrpnk.net? No?

It all depends on who started being violent first...
How do you mean? Most authoritarian regimes are maintained with fear and violence. Even in democratic states that don’t primarily rule through fear the government generally has a monopoly on using violence to enforce the law.

There’s also a part that says freedom of speech, right to a fair trial, freedom from unreasonable search & seizures, right to asylum…

How’s that going?

Tin soldiers and the Donvict’s coming. We’re finally on our own…
Here we go. It’s about to get crazy folks!
You mean the Man who Deployed Secret Police in his FIRST TERM is Deploying the National Guard in his SECOND TERM? I did NAZI This coming!
Going to be watching this with great curiosity and excitement. Hopefully other places get the idea. Going to be very curious where Newsom comes down on this.
LAPD is already assisting ICE, so take a guess.