What is a movie that "looks like" it would suck, but actually is well written and acted and a good time?

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What is a movie that "looks like" it would suck, but actually is well written and acted and a good time? - Divisions by zero

I’ll start: “Happy Death Day” https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5308322/ [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5308322/]

Doom 2005 wasn’t bad.
The FPS sequence made me go
It was the best part of the entire movie.
It was short, but made sitting through the stupid names and extra chromosome shit worth it.
You should check out the movie Hardcore Henry 😉
Oooohhhh, I watched that back then and totally forgot that that movie was even a thing. I think I need to rewatch it
Star Trek First Conact
I disagree. This both looked and was awesome.

Exactly. It was one of my top three ST movies, and by all accounts. Ebert reviewed it positively, as one of the best of the franchise.

I wonder why they put it in the “looks like it’d suck” category?

Haters gonna find a way to hate? 🤷‍♂️
Well, by including it they imply they liked it, so I’m guessing not a hater. Just curious why they said it “looked like it would be bad”.
I was assuming they were knee-jerk reacting like “It’s Star Trek, so it must be terrible,” and then found out otherwise. I could be wrong though.
As a Trekkie it looked awesome to me but to my civilian friends it looked like made for TV garbage, then they saw it and loved it

I think people are missing that this movie is spelled differently than “Star Trek First Contact”.

Star Trek First CONACT was a cheap, B-movie knock-off straight to DVD movie that should have sucked, but didnt.

Angela Lansbury was not nominated for an Oscar for her preformance as the Captain, but Brooke Shields notably was also in the movie as an alien.

/s

Wait, what are you saying. There is.a.dooferent movie named “first conact”? (Google didn’t help me)

Mile 22. Died at the box office and I’d heard nothing but bad things about it. Saw a DVD at the library and a stranger suggested it to me.

Seriously good thriller with action, intrigue, and some great acting.

No idea, but Happy Death Day looked interesting enough that I went to see it in the cinema.

#50 box office that year, 4.8M to produce, so pretty good.

I loved Hudson Hawk. The story was bonkers, the musical numbers were entertaining and had a great ending.

Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves is always a good mention.

It’s a fun and very accessible movie.

I may be biased, as an RPG nerd, but man, they hit all the notes so damn well. That was such a good movie.

Which is precisely the problem: I am not, and not only was I mildly bored, I also found the narrative to be just plain incoherent. It was obvious to me the story was driven by some Reference Guide on RPG stuff, and not on captivating an audience.

I guess it hit every nail on the head. That’s all it hit, actually.

I sometimes like to pride myself on my ability to take a different viewpoint, but today it’s absolutely failing me, lol. I really thought this was a movie everyone could at least enjoy.

I guess it hit every nail on the head. That’s all it hit, actually.

That’s a fascinating statement. Could you elaborate a bit?

Not much to it outside of trying to convey “perfect by RPG standards, tropes and parameters”, but failed to “hit” me in any way.

Watching it, I was expecting to see something akin to a Franchise movie, where you may miss a bit or two if you’re not in on all the lore. But I was also expecting true entertainment with striking visuals, gripping storytelling, stuff like that

Imagine watching a spy movie. 20% in you have adversarial hierarchy, 30% in the car chase, 66% in the romantic pause, 80% in the unexpected traitor, 95% in the final hand-to-hand fight to avert the end of the universe or whatever… And it’s boring, but everybody around you is telling you it was so great because it’s got it all, the car chase the traitor the, the.

Doesn’t make a good movie.

On the contrary, the best part about it is that it’s not a compilation of references the audience is supposed to already know about. It’s just a fun adventure movie. The reason the RPG crowd sing it praises is that in addition, if you know how to read it, the actual plot is “girlfriend is curious about what we’re all doing every Tuesday evening”

Yeah, the entire story follows the major beats of a group of people playing DND. Everything that happens would be familiar to a player. Your party always gets captured and thrown in a prison from where you must escape. Dungeon Masters (the people running the game) will frequently introduce an overpowered “helper” NPC to move the party along in the right direction, but that character won’t engage in the fights. Parties will find several puzzles that the DM has spent hours creating, only for the party to use some magic or tool in a creative way to bypass the entire puzzle.

To someone expecting standard fantasy storytelling, it’s jarring and weird. The anachronistic language, the character decisions that don’t make sense, the magic artifacts that seem to just happen to be exactly wha the party needs in the moment, it’s all stuff that would happen around a table in someone’s basement. It helps to think of each character as a regular person you know today playing a game where they make all the decisions for the character. Convenient contrivances or frustrating failures are the DM having fun with the story. Sometimes the dice rolls 20 and you do something miraculous, and sometimes you roll a 1, trip over a pebble and stab yourself in the face.

You don’t have to be a dnd player to enjoy the movie, but you do need to understand the lens through which you’re watching it. Otherwise, the tone and pacing seem really strange.

I never played d&d or any games of that style, and probably missed out on a bunch of the catered moments, but I still enjoyed it very much
It’s very much worth watching the older dnd movies just to see how amazingly bad they were(i still like the first one they did but acknowledge how bad it is)
Agreed. Also doesn’t hurt that I enjoyed Pine when he played Kirk
I thought it might be a stupid movie to hate watch but I enjoyed it. The bread crumb trail quest line type of movie scratched the itch for me.
One of the best movies of the year for me, and I was expecting hot garbage.

It had a lot of heart and you could almost “feel” the good/bad dice rolls happening.

The Paladin had me in stitches

I loved the 5 questions.

Good call! Wife and I watched that one on a whim, thinking it would be a good “bad” movie to watch while having a few drinks and were pleasantly surprised!

You probably need be at least familiar with RPG/fantasy tropes to fully enjoy it, but it definitely felt like it came from a place of love and self-awareness, rather than the cynical cash-grab I was expecting.

Pine as a character and narrator def carried a lot of the weight.
This movie took me completely by surprise by how good it was. I feel like you could tell everyone involved had experience playing TTRPGs, from the director, to the writer(s), all the way down to the catering crew!
Although the interviews with the cast are hilarious just because Hugh Grant doesn’t have a single clue about DnD but also couldn’t give a single fuck about it.
Should he need to? He’s an actor. He can pretend to know what he is doing.
No, of course not. But it’s hilarious how he openly admits to his ignorance. He still gives a great performance and was obviously very well liked by the rest of the cast.

I don’t rewatch movies unless its been a few years and I really enjoyed.

Ive provably watched that movie 10x by now. Jarnathan would know what I’m saying if he were here.

I just went and watched it for the first time because of this message. FANTASTIC movie! Excellent recommendation!
Absolutely loved that movie. It’s mixture of slapstick humor and melodrama are a perfect representation of actual D&D.
And the 80s Dungeons and Dragons movie is… well, it has Tim Curry.
I’m giving away my age, but Benny & Joon. A story about two mentally ill people falling in love, and the script isn’t even that great, but all the actors really sell it and it is such a quirky heart warming and funny movie.
Yes! One of my most favorite Johnny Depp roles.
Where my fellow Spokane peeps?

“The Adventures Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension” 1984

Great script, great cast, young Johnathan Lithgow and Christopher Llyod, Peter Weller in one of his best rolls, and bonus Jeff Goldblum as they new guy.

Whole thing is still a perfect package, looking like a B movie you’d totally skip.

One of my all time favorites, so quirky

Such a great movie!

I got this at a DragonCon. They did a pre-release showing and gave these out to the audience.

Jealous!

I’m lucky it’s survived so long. I got it in HS, and in between:

  • Did a tour in the Army
  • Went to college
  • Lived in Germany
  • Have moved over a half dozen times

So many valued possessions have gone missing in that time, due to roommates and sheer carelessness, it’s a minor miracle it’s still with me. The only original possession I have that’s older is a Bloom County Opus plushy that I got in junior high.

That’s a real treasure! Very nice.
I like to think of it as a sci-fi movie sequel/equivalent to the short story (but not the movie) “The Secret Life of Walter Mitty.”
Thank you. I still watch the end credits from time to time. Brings back these sweet eighties memories!
Buckaroo Banzai end titles (credits) (good quality)

YouTube
Although to me it didn’t look like it would suck, Hellboy: The Crooked Man got panned by critics, but it was fantastic.
Yeah I just watched it and really enjoyed it.

The critics on this over were pretty funny to me.

“They made me watch another Hellboy film, and it’s a Hellboy film, and I’m angry.”

Some of those critics need to learn when to call in sick.

It’s a great Hellboy film. Haha.

Arguably the most Hellboy Hellboy film.