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KDE creates a safe haven for Windows 10 exiles.

In the context of the @Endof10 campaign, we have created a new "for" page, this time "for Windows 10 exiles":

https://kde.org/for/w10-exiles/

In it we explain how Linux with Plasma can help users escape the deranged cycle of having to buy a new computer every time Microsoft force-upgrades their operating system.

#Windows11 #Microsoft #endOf10

@kde@lemmy.kde.social

Jun 3 at 11:56amWeb
Show threadVoidZeroOne   Jun 3

@kde @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social

Am I the only one who thinks it looks a bit cringe?

Especially the horrible stock fotos (if that's intentional it's not hitting the way you intended)
It's very ...

Show threadKDEJun 3

@TheOneDoc @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social

> Am I the only one who thinks it looks a bit cringe?

Yes.

Show threadDaniel GibsonJun 3
@TheOneDoc @kde @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social
no, you are not.
Show threadmarmartaJun 3
@kde @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social
This action finally spurred me to install vanilla Linux with KDE, and wow. KDE is so good nowadays. Thank you for your great work!
Show threadBenoitJun 3
@marmarta @kde @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social
Show threadwarmasterJun 4
What’s Vanilla Linux? Vanilla OS?
Show threadmarmartaJun 4
@warmaster
Vanilla as just a normal linux distro, not Qubes OS which is a meta OS and while it can use KDE (although the default is xfce and for job reasons I preferred to use the default), it also has a bunch of customizations and does behave differently in some ways.
Show threadBro666Jun 4
Lovely to hear. Thanks! We hope you enjoy it and please give us feedback so we can improve.
Show threadFlatfireJun 3

Plasma ended up being my DE of choice a year ago. Native Wayland support, HDR and VRR, and general adherence to the same Windows paradigm for managing apps/desktop shortcuts made things easy. I don’t think that design is wrong, and it’s been plenty efficient. It was also the only DE at the time that seemed to be prioritizing matching Windows features where they were clearly strongest rather than trying to pretend Windows had nothing to boast about at all.

Now, if we could talk about letting me enable display outputs without using the terminal that would be greeeeaaaat.

Show threadEpheraJun 4
What do you mean by display outputs? Like what screens it uses? (That should be manageable with Win+P or the little monitor icon in the system tray.)
Show threadFlatfireJun 4
I have a somewhat odd screen config and that doesn’t always seem to maintain my display settings. The only way I’ve been able to get it to maintain screen position is by just re-enabling the output through kscreen-doctor.
Show threadEpheraJun 5
Hmm, okay, maybe you want to report a bug for it not maintaining display settings, if you haven’t yet…
Show threadFlatfireJun 5
I’ve been meaning to lol, but usually this happens when I need to do something and then I forget about it. I’ll make a note to do that later.
Show threadMurvelJun 4

Wait, Plasma has HDR support? I thought only really Gnome was that far the Wayland pipe that they had support for HDR?

Being constrained by HDR support has been the bane of the last few days of moving to linux since Gnome causes me no end of issues, its simply very unstable in my system.

Show threadFlatfireJun 4
Since the beginning of last year. Gnome didn’t have it at the time that I moved over, so it’s a surprise to me that it does now.
Show threadMurvelJun 4

Yeah, can confirm it works on Plasma and I have to say it looks real nice on an HDR monitor.

The colors really pop!

Show threadZoopJun 3
That’s a great page. Very well done! I’m sure it’ll help a whole lot of people. Thank you for making it and sharing it!
Show threadMagitianJun 3
@kde @Endof10 @kde I've heard good things about a video editor called Kdenlive - maybe you could check it out? 😈
Show threadRileyJun 3

@kde @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social

This is the Sega does ad of operating systems

Show threadFredselfishJun 3

Exactly how can Windows break my computer. My wife has a computer still running Windows XP and it still works. She never connects it to the internet, think that’s the way.

Will I be able to run my steam and Epic games with this? What about another PC games I own? And my hundreds of mp3 books and thousands of music files. I have them on internal harddrives. If I upgrade my main hard drive to this will I be able to access the files and docs on the two another drives?

Show threadMiah JohnsonJun 3
@Fredselfish @kde install steam on Linux, it works.
Show threadeverettJun 3

Will I be able to run my steam and Epic games with this? What about another PC games I own?

Possibly yes, and incressingly possible over time. Check out ProtonDB. Proton is built into Steam. I don’t know anything about Epic.

And my hundreds of mp3 books and thousands of music files.

Absolutely yes.

I have them on internal harddrives. If I upgrade my main hard drive to this will I be able to access the files and docs on the two another drives?

Yep, there’s support for multiple hard drives, and Linux can read NTFS-formatted drives. But what’s more, Linux installers have long supported “guided partitioning,” which helps you install the OS alongside an existing one like Windows, and then choose between the two when you boot. Of course, when you’re installing any new OS, even Windows, you should make sure you have backups of all your stuff, just in case.

ProtonDB | Gaming know-how from the Linux and Steam Deck community

Game information for Proton, Linux, Steam Deck, and SteamOS

Show threadDaddleDewJun 3

I still recommend getting a new SSD to install Linux on if you want to keep the ability to run your old Windows on that same machine. It is cheap, safe for both your Windows and Linux installs, usually allows you to take advantage of advancements in SSD speeds, lets you have access to your old files so you can transfer them over and makes the whole process far less terrifying.

At some point you’ll realize you haven’t used your Windows drive in a year and it will be a lot easier to make the decision to finally erase it all and repurpose the drive for something else.

Show threadlightnsfwJun 3

At some point you’ll realize you haven’t used your Windows drive in a year and it will be a lot easier to make the decision to finally erase it all and repurpose the drive for something else.

It hasn’t been a year yet but so far it’s been the other way around for me (except for the VM I run my piracy stuff on and my media server, that’s going great). I have been running into constant issues and annoyances trying to use Linux as my daily driver. Maybe if all I cared about was streaming content and gaming it would be fine but I couldn’t even get through my taxes without having to switch back.

Show threadIngeniousRocks (They/She) Jun 3
Do you have any use cases in particular that have been pain points? I’m a 20+ year user who helps folks make the switch as a hobby, I may have some advice for you.
Show threadeverettJun 3
You, you seem like good people.
Show threadIngeniousRocks (They/She) Jun 3
I do my best! 🩷🌸🌷
Show threadRaptor Jun 3

@ArsonButCute @lightnsfw can't speak for him but most of the people I've helped their major pain points were literally that they never understood what they were doing, just which icons to click, to them IE WAS the internet and firefox was a "different" thing so they'd get frustrated no matter how many times they were told to click on firefox for the internet they'd claim the internet was missing.

Literally installing a windows icon pack/skin fixes 99% of the issues for many people.

Show threadAdrian6d ago
@ArsonButCute @lightnsfw at this point the only thing stopping me from moving ahead of October is a 20 year photo collection which is all indexed and star rated in Photoshop elements organiser. Any hints how I would move this to Linux? I'm happy to buy software if required but don't want to use SAS.
Show threadIngeniousRocks (They/She) 6d ago

Whe I’m not personally familiar with adobe’s elements organizer, I believe you may want a metadata editor to maintain your sorting and ratings. I use Tiny Media Manager for managing my metadata but it looks like it can’t handle photos, I’ve looked into it a tiny bit and “ExifTool” (exiftool.org) seems to be the same but for image metadata.

I’d recommend copying some of those files already sorted by the adobe suite and check in the windows version of exiftool if it can edit or modify your tags and ratings you’ve applied. If so, the tool is also available Linux and MacOS.

Show threadAdrian6d ago
@ArsonButCute thanks, I'll give it a shot. Last time I tried the hard part was getting the tags out of Adobe, especially if you don't want the modified metadata date changed.
Show threadlightnsfwJun 3
At the moment the issues I’m dealing with are CAD No Fusion 360 on Linux and FreeCAD has ran like shit on every system I’ve tried and getting my peripherals working, mainly my Logitech stuff, mainly my g602 mouse but I also have a headset from them that doesn’t work properly and from what I understand can’t work properly on Linux. Another problem I had a few weeks ago was something killed the secure boot enrollment on my Linux os and it refused to boot at all or even get into repair mode even after I disabled secure boot. I had to completely reinstall it and start over which is not sustainable if that reoccurs with any sort of frequency.
Show threadIngeniousRocks (They/She) Jun 4

Re: fusion 360
github.com/…/Autodesk-Fusion-360-for-Linux

This might interest you

Re Logitech G602
Sonaar allows for registration of devices to your Logitech Unifying reciever

Re Logitech Headset
Depending on your headset, this may help
github.com/Sapd/HeadsetControl

Re Secure Boot
I’m not sure if this is for an enterprise environment but if it is I would consider an LTS distribution. Otherwise I’m not personally sure what Secureboot would gain you from even being enabled other than preventing other operating systems from being booted. Your reasons for enabling it of course may be valid, but depending whether anyone else has physical access to that machine and what potential risks involved with another OS booting are, consider disabling it entirely.

GitHub - cryinkfly/Autodesk-Fusion-360-for-Linux: This is a project, where I give you a way to use Autodesk Fusion 360 on Linux!

This is a project, where I give you a way to use Autodesk Fusion 360 on Linux! - cryinkfly/Autodesk-Fusion-360-for-Linux

GitHub
Show threadRaptor Jun 3
@lightnsfw @DaddleDew what tax program? All the major ones I know of (at least in the US) not only run just fine but are fully supported by the company that makes them to run on linux (honestly mostly because they're all either just web or electron apps now anyways)
Show threadlightnsfwJun 3
It wasn’t the website. The pdf app wouldn’t open files off my file server because it didn’t know how to handle the smb prefix in the file path.
Show threadRaptor Jun 3
@lightnsfw which distro? all major linux distros support the smb:// prefix out of the box. (the app shouldn't matter, as it's just a filesystem handle)
Show threadlightnsfwJun 3
Bazzite. It was that specific app that couldn’t open the file. I can’t remember the name of the app Ocu-something I think. Dolphin was able to browse my server just fine. Honestly never had an issue like that on Linux before. I found a fix for it by going in and changing a config file for how the app handles files from SMB but expecting people to have to do that just for opening shit from a network share is just the kind of things that make using Linux annoying. I’m still going to work at it because Windows is bad too but they’re not in competition because of how great Linux is. It’s because windows is getting worse.
Show threadCameron BoschJun 3
@DaddleDew @everett Sadly, many smaller laptops have just one SSD slot. Good advice on desktops or bigger laptops with more than one SSD slot though!
Show threadHubertManneJun 3
games some but not all. music and video files no problem. I don't know of a disk format linux cannot use its only with windows that it does not natively read the unix ones. ntfs and fat should be no issue.
Show threadPapaexmatrikulatusJun 3
@Fredselfish @kde You can use the #heroicgameslauncher for your Epic games.
Show threadlc_lolJun 3
@Fredselfish @kde yes, most of them, if not all. I recommend using heroic games launcher, it has a direct portal to get and install your epic and gog games. Don't hesitate to ask me if you need help 🙂
Show threadFredselfishJun 3
Thank you saving this for when I make that jump.
Show threaddjsfJun 3

@kde @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social

I have a Windows 11 / Kubuntu dual boot setup.

Windows 11 crashes about 1x per hour.

Kubuntu has never crashed.

Show threaddjsfJun 3

@kde @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social also, the only reason i have Windows AT ALL is because Rekordbox (dj software) does not run on Linux. if it did, i would delete windows forever and never look back.

Rekordbox is also one of those softwares that i wish i didnt need to use at all.

im seeing a pattern here…

Show threadAl & Val's Modern HomesteadingJun 3
@djsf @kde @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social I used Mixxx for years.
Show threaddjsfJun 3

@alandvalonline @kde @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social
i've heard good things about Mixxx! sadly I need to prep USBs to work with CDJs at clubs. Alpha Theta's little racket is very effective in this regard. No matter how bad Rekordbox gets, you will still need to use it to play in clubs that use CDJs. 😭

The second this stops being true, I'm switching

Show threadturtle [he/him]Jun 3
Have you looked into Mixxx? I understand that it takes more after Serato than Rekordbox though. I haven’t used any of them myself.
Show threaddjsfJun 4

@turtle I would definitely dump Rekordbox for Mixxx if I could stick to DJing with Controllers. but you need to have a Rekordbox formatted USB stick to use the Pioneer CDJs they usually have at clubs.

Pioneer really has professional DJs by the you know whats

Show threaddjsfJun 4
@turtle my response to this? Skip the CDJs and just do live eurorack performance. Have I successfully done this yet? No. 😭
Show threadturtle [he/him]Jun 4
That sounds wild! I’m not a DJ but have some interest in it.
Show threaddjsfJun 4
@turtle it is wild! and difficult! hence why i have not done it yet lol but at least i won't be at the mercy of a predatory business model anymore
Show threadturtle [he/him]Jun 4
@djsf@fosstodon.org I can imagine! Are there any DJ controller manufacturers that are more reasonable in either supporting older hardware or making it more open so it’s easier for other software to support?
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Show threaddjsfJun 4
@turtle None that I'm aware of. And part of the problem is that almost all clubs use Pioneer. And when you perform you gotta use what they have, especially if you are part of a lineup.
Show threadturtle [he/him]Jun 4
@djsf@fosstodon.org I see. Sorry to hear.
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Show threadturtle [he/him]Jun 4
Oh, yikes, I had no idea! That sucks, sorry to hear it.
Show threaddjsfJun 4

@turtle yeahhh Alpha Theta is crafty like that.

they also seem to be positioning themselves to make old CDJ hardware obsolete soon. They've started pushing a new USB format called "Library Plus" that you need to use for new devices.

Once they stop supporting the original "Library (not plus)" format, old devices will effectively be bricked.

They haven't said that they're gonna do this, but it's pretty obvious. There is no clear advantage to the new "Library Plus" format.

Show threadturtle [he/him]Jun 4
It’s always frustrating when supported for perfectly working old hardware is dropped. According to the Mixxx wiki, many hardware controllers are supported, including some Pioneer CDJ models: 350 / 850 / 2000.
Show threadBobseeJun 3
@kde @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social #Microsoft running the #Apple playbook. My Powerbook G3 obsoleted by apple and, my Apple laptop from 2012 running Ubuntu.
Show threadCome On Giant Asteroid!Jun 3

@kde @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social

Lol. I was a KDE/Kubuntu user for several years & KDE on OpenSUSE before that. I may even have had KDE running under CDE on an UltraSPARC BITD.

Then the powers that be decided that KDE4 was "better" for some value of better that I could never figure out. Stepped back to CentOS w/GNOME before I found the Trinity fork. Used that until I retired. Most of my typing is on MacOS now.

My W10 box will remain at W10 until the 4-5 things that I need W10 for force me to change.

Show threadAl & Val's Modern HomesteadingJun 3
@kde @Endof10 @kde@lemmy.kde.social On the PLUS side, there ARE all those "old" laptops, tablets and computers that you can pick up really cheap to do a nice, fresh install of Linux on to. I've got 3 of them right now. Including the one I'm typing this post with.