BYD among others have it sewn up over there

Nobody smart in the world will be buying US electric vehicles

Not even yanks, but the lobbyists have kept most decent EV makers out, with the exception of the few Japanese and Korean vehicles available

I just saw a video about a new Chevrolet pickup truck. For some reason i thought it might be good. Because pickup trucks is all anericans care about. It’s huuuuge and absolute garbage with a 80k price tag.

You’re comparing a full size to a mid size, crew cab vs regular cab

If you compare the same model (two F150 for example) with the same type of body (crew cab 6’ bed) you quickly realize that their size hasn’t increased by that much since the 90s (and the growth mostly comes from having to meet safety standards). If you use proportions the same model of car will have blown up way more over the same period (example: the mk6 Jetta is the size of a 12 years older Passat).

I thought their point was that they hate the large size, not that they were comparing apples to apples

Thing is barely anyone actually buys regular cabs so from the get go it’s a bad comparison as sure those small trucks existed, but there weren’t that many on the road. When you look at an extended cab mid size with 6’ bed truck today vs in 1995 you end up with a truck that is taller sure (the design makes it look worse than it actually is really), but isn’t actually that much larger or longer. The same thing is true for all trucks if your compare apples to apples.

If you then take cash tests into consideration well things don’t look good for those small trucks from back in the day… Body-on-frame isn’t the best for crumple zones and stuff like that, but it’s necessary to take actual load.

So yeah, people can complain that super small trucks don’t exist anymore but if they did they wouldn’t buy them anyway.

I don’t think you’re right about a lot of this unless you consider only america.

That’s where the complaints come from so yes North America is the market I’m talking about

Truck specs aren’t hard to find either, people don’t bother checking the actual measurements though and instead rely on bad comparisons like a Ford Ranger with a regular cab vs an F150 with a crew cab to prove their point

That’s where the complaints come from

Not necessarily, those kinds of huge vehicles are showing up in Europe too and a lot of Europeans HATE them.

And you’re missing the point entirely. People are specifically ignoring the class of truck, as they do not want larger classes to even exist. They do not believe these enormous monstrosities should be a thing, so why in the world would they ever compare them to other trucks they consider monstrosities? “Hey guys see, out of these two things I hate, one is worse!” ???

Then compare a Ford Ranger (like on the picture) from back in the day to a current model year and you’ll soon realize that with the same build they’re pretty similar in size, as I mentioned before. You can’t complain that X got bigger if your comparison is with Y. Small trucks still exist, people don’t compare with them because it would prove their point moot.

If they don’t want larger classes of trucks to exist at all they should stop saying that “things were better back then” and should instead say “these things shouldn’t have been invented back in 1953!” but that’s not what they do becausr they created a fictional world in their minds where full size trucks weren’t full size trucks 30 years ago.

I somehow doubt you cannot understand the point, you just want to ignore it. Yes, people are saying trucks have gotten bigger but they clearly mean by that “larger, more dangerous vehicles now exist and I don’t like it”

And you don’t understand the point that no they haven’t gotten that much bigger if you actually stop being dishonest and compare trucks of the same type instead of comparing two different trucks.

“I’m looking at my girlfriend sub compact hatchback and my SUV and damn, cars sure did get much bigger over the two years between their production!”

That’s the level of intelligence in this exchange.

You’re wrong. I don’t need to prove it. It doesn’t matter what anyone is comparing when you can easily look around and see more large trucks on the road, especially outside of America where large trucks were rare until recently. You’d have to be intentionally ignoring this fact to not notice, which you are.

Again, numbers don’t lie, go check the dimensions of a crew cab Long box F150 from 20 years ago vs today and the size isn’t that different.

“But my eyes tell different!”

Yeah, that’s why your don’t rely on your eyes and your rely on actual spec sheets.

Sure hope you stay far from any field that has to do with measurements.