LadyButterflyshe/herWhat's something you don't get the hype about?
RedditAdminsSuckItOh god, I feel like I’m going to be massacred.
K-pop
Can I massacre you with hugs for this? 'Cause that’s the only impulse I have for your saying it.
(I agree, if you haven’t spotted this. ;) )
Isn’t it basically the same as back when western boybands were popular, just with more internet?
That’s the thing, I don’t know
Is it something more than just Korean pop groups? Is it a fetish? This is the most I’ve thought about it honestly because some of the fans just made it nuts.
I worked at a B&N and the calls I would get for exclusive versions… 12 versions of the same album except for some trading card inside or something.
I find it bizarre but I just don’t understand
“fetish” might be a bit much, but I think the somewhat effeminate style of the men in these groups is a very welcome contrast to the kinds of male musicians who are popular with boys+men. They also heavily feature dancing, which is a lot more popular with women than men, too. And it’s probably specifically about korean groups because korea has a large boygroup+girlgroup industry and being east-asian they have a novelty-bonus (dare I say exoticism-bonus?) compared to western groups.
Fetish was the wrong word. Desirable I guess is what I meant to lead with.
You have had the longest conversation with me about k-pop. I get it a little bit more than I ever meant too.
I begrudgingly thank you lol
And same with the Korean girl K-pop bands, though with some of their fans I get a real sense of skincrawl.
starlingukK-pop is purely about looking pretty. Some of the boy bands looked pretty average but their music was decent.
I mean, there’s more to being effeminate than being really really ridiculously good-looking.
Are you an ambi-turner?
Zos_KiaThe comparison with western boys bands makes sense, but it is not very flattering IMO. K-Pop is very competitive as an industry, and the artistic and technical level is miles ahead when compared to a backstreet boys or bands like that. Korean performers are world class, they have badass producers, insane music videos etc…
It’s not my jam at all but I have to admit there’s good shit in there.
There’s good and bad kpop, like there’s good and bad of most genres.
hey, you’re valid… I’m from Korea and it’s crazy seeing how people drool over kpop nowdays. no attention for the actual good music, the korean rock and hip hop and funk and jazz and so on… just the corporate boybands.
It’s the same shit that’s popular in the US. manufactured popularity. we could talk about all the factors about how they pulled it off, but who cares, it’s a bunch of shitty music created by desperate people selling their souls to rapists who prey on modern social isolation to sell empty fantasies to the masses.
that’s the point of the music! you should be proud to dislike it. now go listen to something good, like Jaurim (자우림)
Oh, Honey!
TotallyNotSpezK-pop, Anima & Manga, Harry Potter (fuck JKR!), Gyms, Yoga & Pilates and probably a hundred things more…
asparagus
Green or white?
Green are so so, but white… Omg… With hollandaise and a good piece of ham.
The type that’s popular here is white and boiled. Even if I liked green and grilled (haven’t tried it, so it’s technically possible), that’s not what most people are hyped about.
With all due respect my dude I think you're just using the asparagus as an edible spoon for hollandaise there. And I like asparagus
I cannot deny I prefer to eat a bit too much hollandaise with them, but I also really enjoy them “au natural”.
I even like them from a jar.
I’m not sure why though. Just taste I guess.
I think what helps with the hype is that they are quite seasonal, so when they are available you hear a lot of people talk about them maybe?
Same with Rhubarb and “pepernoten” (if you’re Dutch) for instance.
Jungle pee!
Bacon.
I mean I get it. We studied the marketing campaign that led to baconmania in class. It’s one of the greatest marketing campaigns of all time, right up there with “A Diamond is Forever” from de Beers.
But in the end, bacon is … OK. But there’s many better ways to use pork bellies than turning them into bacon. Especially the over-processed stuff that’s used on foods in restaurants.
Bacon was awesome before the marketing campaign. Bacon was awesome during it, and bacon remains awesome to this day.
Sorry about all the shitty bacon you’ve been fed.
I don’t remember a bacon marketing campaign. Regardless, bacon/pork belly is the most delicious meat in my opinion.
Bacon is a subset of pork belly. I love pork belly. But there’s so many more ways to prepare it than curing it and optionally smoking it. Indeed my favourite way of eating it involves steaming it.
As for the marketing campaign, like the de Beers campaign, it dates back a lot farther than people think today. The beginnings of baconmania traces back to the 1920s. One of the pioneers of PR directed a campaign that included finding 5000 doctors willing to say that a “heavy” breakfast was healthy for you and that bacon and eggs were a perfect breakfast food. This was then presented in media as “scientific consensus” and thus began the age of bacon for breakfast.
That’s how things stood until the 1960s. Bacon and eggs was a standard breakfast food. Pork sales were doing well, and pork bellies were a nice piece of extra income. But then the reputation for red meat started to slide. By the '70s all red meats started to slide, and the added anti-fat movement cause pork sales to tank across the board. Various pork marketing boards started making deals with fast food restaurants to push bacon as a way to boost pork bellies at least. They partnered with restaurants to create recipes that involved bacon as a “versatile ingredients” instead of just breakfast food. Bacon on salads. Bacon on sandwiches. Bacon here, bacon there. And with this, paired with, naturally, a whole lot of money poured into marketing (costs split down the middle with the partnered restaurants) the beginnings of baconmania started.
By the mid-80s, with the establishment of the National Pork Board, baconmania truly took hold as said board pushed pork in all its forms (anybody remember “The Other White Meat”?) both as a “lean” alternative to beef and shoving bacon into anything imaginable (chocolate cookies, say) as some kind of “flavour treat”. This marketing campaign started to ramp up just in time for the arrival of public Internet and thus were the seeds planted for the bacon insanity today.
Baconmania is a cynically manipulated set of marketing campaigns that dates back a hundred years and is going strong, rivalling “A Diamond is Forever” for effectiveness and endurance.
Very interesting, sounds exactly like what the diary industry does. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are both heavily connected.
For those curious, see Climate Town latest video “Dairy Is Milking America Dry”
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQiLly6Z1xs
yewtu.be/watch?v=NQiLly6Z1xs
Dairy Is Milking America Dry | Climate Town
I love nor being american so much
LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]I am so annoyed with bacon on burgers. Stop putting bacon on your burgers. Restaurants will go through the trouble of having some delicious house sauce or concept for the burger, and then overpower it completely by putting 4 strips of cheap ass bacon on it, what the fuck are you doing people, trust in your burger sauce why are you like this
The power of marketing. All the cool kids are doing bacon. You don’t want to be uncool now, do you?
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Pick-up trucks for anyone that’s not a farmer, construction worker or dirtbike rider.
They are so dumb and impractical for normal driving. I don’t get it.
I believe there was some tax-benefit for them in the US at some point…? Then it makes a tiny bit if sense i guess.
But what’s even dumber: cross-overs. Worst of both worlds.
Carl [he/him]I believe there was some tax-benefit for them in the US at some point…? Then it makes a tiny bit if sense i guess.
It’s even stupider than you think California made a rule requiring that auto makers transition to making EVs, but exempted certain heavy vehicles from the transition, and auto makers responded by turning every single car into a heavy exempted vehicle. Twenty years of marketing later and now you can’t convince an American to buy a reasonably-sized car, which is why crossovers are a thing.
Nowadays I use my pickup for work, but when I bought it, it was simply for fun - not for any practical reason. There’s not much more to it. They look cool, they’re fun to drive, and they make you feel like you’re operating a machine, not just something meant to get you from point A to point B.
You’re just not the kind of person who’s into that - and that’s fine. You probably aren’t into playing the flute either, but I doubt you’d say you “don’t get it” or that it’s dumb.
As a non- flute player, other people playing the flute improves my life. Non-essential trucks take up more space on the road and hurt the environment for absolutely no reason.
But this thread wasn’t about what you feel morally superior about compared to others, so I’m not sure what your reply has to do with anything I just said. We’re discussing not understanding the hype around something and that’s what I was responding to.
This thread also isn’t about justifying hyped activities. I responded to your comment, like you responded to the comment before yours.
Explanation is not excuse.
What about excuse? I haven’t edited my comment, and I didn’t mention excuses. Did you reply to the wrong comment? Or do you think justifications and excuses are the same thing?
It’s a saying — it just rhymes better than “explanation is not justifying.” You know what I meant. I gave an explanation for why some people do what they do, and you responded as if I were justifying it, which I wasn’t.
Had you used the word excuse, that would at least suggest I acknowledge something is bad but am still okay with it - which would be closer to how I actually feel about it. But saying I’m justifying it implies I think it’s right, reasonable, or morally acceptable, which completely misrepresents my view.
Interesting, I actually didn’t know what you meant. This extra context about your feelings didn’t come through in your initial comment about trucks. It does read as a justification to me.
I’m afraid we’re about to head into pedantics now, so I’ll leave you here. Enjoy your truck.
Playing the flute doesn‘t kill people and endanger others :)
feel like you’re operating a machine
Funny because I’m assuming your truck has an automatic transmission. Try getting a very cheap, small car with manual transmission and tell me what feels more like driving a machine to you 😏
I rented a small Peugeot 108 when on holiday on Crete a few weeks back. Nothing more exhilarating than taking that go-kart into a mountain road.
I’m assuming your truck has an automatic transmission
It’s almost 20 years old and doesn’t have automatic anything.
Then I haven’t said anything, but you’re also not the person I was writing about 😉
orcaThis is basically Florida. Tons of massive trucks on the roads, all driven by absolute assholes that I will judge absolutely by their truck alone.
I agree with pick ups. The issue has been that bigger pick ups are generally exempt from fuel efficiency mandates resulting in manufacturers making bigger and bigger pick ups. They don’t make compact pick ups anymore. Add in America has some fascination with owning trucks. I’m actually gonna disagree on crossovers. For most people I agree they’re impractical. But they’re better than SUVs and pick ups. Most people actually need a mini van or wagon but we just stopped making those
Part of it was EPA regulations fucking up small trucks. Another part is that they’re safer for the occupants, deadlier for everyone else. And then there’s general machismo.
I would go further and say they are stupid for everything. Oh i need it to haul stuff. And you didn’t get a bus? Are you stupid?
I mean… pretty much anything that gets hyped. For me, hype is one of the most reliable signals that I’m not going to be into something. That said, I’ll admit that the hype itself often keeps me from even giving things a fair chance. So it’s not that I’ve disliked everything that’s been hyped, but more that the ones I did try and didn’t enjoy made me even less likely to bother with the rest.
This is me in a nutshell. The more people that tell me to participate in any thing, the less likely i am to try it. Still haven’t watched Tiger King, for example.
Taylor Swift. I actually like her musicm. I also understand that hardcore fans will exist for every artist. But Swifties take it to another level. I’m lowkey impressed by that fandom, but don’t get it.
BlackoutI just saw Black Joe Lewis play last night and I know for a fact he's a much better guitarist. But she packs stadiums and only 50 people were at his show. maybe it's because he doesn't show off his thighs?
Lol! The music industry has fuck all to do with music…!
I think you’re generalizing her way too much here. Her fanbase is mostly girls. They aren’t coming to see her thighs. She may not be the greatest guitarist in the world but she’s a great song writer and singer. Her Eras tour was also incredibly well done.
If she was 275 lb nobody would purchase her music.
“my point isn’t to body shame” as you body shame lmao. Maybe, and this might be crazy, she writes good music. I haven’t looked at a single picture of Taylor’s thighs before buying all her music.
You’re intentionally missing the point because you don’t want to give up ground on your specious argument.
I fucking hate people like you.
Your point is fucking stupid. If she weighed more people wouldn’t buy her music? So because she dresses up she’s selling her body? And if she can’t sell her body she wouldn’t be successful. Because women aren’t successful unless they’re selling their body.
Touch grass buddy. Maybe listen to T Swift while you’re at it. Unless she’s too big for you.
I like her music when I hear it, but don’t seek it out. From what I gather she really speaks to women, they get her in ways I (male) would not relate to. She strikes me as moral and doesn’t have skeletons in the closet or any weird behavior one would expect from someone that rich and famous. As dad would have said, “That’s a stand-up woman!”
She knows how to sell herself, which I find an admirable and difficult trait. I feel I’m 10x more confident than the people that post around here and she’s 100x more confident that I. And it’s not bullshit, unearned confidence a la Senior Musk.
And who doesn’t love how she fucked the record companies over at their own game? Knowing her own worth changed the industry.
Doesn’t hurt that she’s almost ethereally pretty. :)
You know how people who are into Q-Anon and Pizza-gate look at strange symbols and odd numerology to find strange connections to prove whatever crazy thing they believe. Taylor Swift like to release albums, singles and tours using favorite numbers, hidden symbols and hints in her other songs. So it fits that section of the internet who love to analyze to death things to find clues. Since she is so prolific there is enough material for her to hide these Easter eggs to generate endless conspiracies about when things are released. Since she does drop hints it makes sense that people love to find them. Its like a puzzle-game mixed with a conspiracy theory mixed with a “viral marketing campaign” all in one. And instead of unraveling the fabric of democracy she release music people like.
The last of us games, pretty generic trope filled badly paced story. And just super meh gameplay that feels like you are walking through molasses.