FlashMobOfOneMay 31, 2025

New poll shows who Dems want in 2028 — and it’s not Kamala Harris

https://lemmy.world/post/30538904

New poll shows who Dems want in 2028 — and it’s not Kamala Harris - Lemmy.World

The poll, released on May 30 by Atlas Intel, found Pete Buttigieg, the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and former transportation secretary in the Biden administration, to be the top pick among Democrats who responded to the survey. A total of 31.5% of self-identified Democrats who responded to the poll said they would vote for Buttigieg for president in four years, according to the poll. Other surveys in May from firms such as Echelon Insights and McLaughlin & Associates have found Harris in first place in the hypothetical primary, making Atlas Intel’s poll stand out among the rest. Harris is the third most popular pick among Democrats in the poll, falling behind U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y.

Show threadFlashMobOfOneMay 31, 2025

TLDR: It’s Mayor Pete in the lead in this poll, followed by AOC in second.

And an AOC candidacy would really, really excite me if I didn’t know that Democrats rig their primaries. It’ll be someone that rich people love who gets the nod, likely Mayor Pete or Gavin Newsom, and then Democrats will wonder how they could have possibly lost to JD Vance.

Show threadmutual_ayedMay 31, 2025

Democrats will wonder how they could have possibly lost to JD Vance.

Lost to Trump. He’s running for a third term and he’s tearing down as much infrastructure as he can to do it. This isn’t going to be a representative democracy if Trump and the goons behind him stay in power. Infighting and implosion is all we can hope for.

Show threaddhork
If Donald Trump is President past January 2029, he won’t need an election to do it.
May 31, 2025 at 11:42amWeb
Show threadmutual_ayedMay 31, 2025
Just like in Russia, appearances will matter. Show pony elections are often the norm in totalitarian states.
Show threadqueermunist she/herMay 31, 2025
If appearances mattered they wouldn’t be doing half the shit they are doing right now.
Show threadmutual_ayedMay 31, 2025

Appearances do matter. It’s how fascism comes to power.

…stackexchange.com/…/understanding-how-fascism-sh…

Show threadqueermunist she/herJun 1, 2025

From your link:

Fascism cannot exist outside of a democratic political system any more than cancer can exist outside of a living organism, and for much the same reason. Fascism is a disease of liberal democracy, a disease that co-opts the principles and systems of liberal democracy to destroy it from within.

This is proven obviously false by history. Every successful fascist government abandoned the democratic political system when it was no longer useful. That’s what I mean by appearances not mattering. Appearances do matter up to a certain point, but once fascists seize power the mask falls away and the fascists stop pretending because appearances stop mattering.

Show threadmutual_ayedJun 1, 2025
How so? Mussolini did that exact process in Italy, as did Hitler and Franco.
Show threadqueermunist she/herJun 1, 2025

Franco was never elected. He was appointed by the Junta during Spanish Civil War, and lost the elections a few years before.

As for Italy, the last elections were in 1934 once the fascists consolidated power and the Chamber of Deputies was replaced with the Chamber of Fasces and Corporations. The last elections Germany had were in 1933 which saw Hitler appointed as Chancellor.

Italy was a dictatorship 11 years, Germany for 12 years, and Spain for 40 years. They didn’t even bother to maintain the appearance of democracy during this time, they dissolved parliaments and banned political parties and became very open dictatorships.

Once the fascists are in power they rip off the mask because appearances don’t matter anymore.

Francoist Spain - Wikipedia