Something I'm learning in my adventures in Linux is that it's vital to have a second, working computer with you in order to search for ways to fix the thing you've just massively broken.
@DJDarren Oh hells yah. I keep a couple of shit-boxes around for exactly that reason.
@Caution @DJDarren also, only linux can run those shit boxes. i couldn't imagine running windows 11 on 4 gb of ram.

@tootbrute @Caution It blows my mind that a random Linux distro works better on my otherwise unused 14 year old MacBook than the last supported version of macOS.

I wish the trackpad drivers were better, but with a mouse it's a solid - if comparatively sluggish - experience.

That said, this thing does have 16gb ram, so it's not a complete shitbox.

@DJDarren @Caution nice...i have a 2010 macbook pro that runs linux pretty well too.

i also run nixos on a 2010 shitbook hp with 4 gb of ram...with GNOME and it runs. pretty impressive.

@tootbrute I'm also running Mint on a 2011 Mac mini that currently only has 4gb ram. I don't do much with that one, but it does what it needs to do without any complaints.

My 'main' Linux machine is a '14 mini with 8gb soldered ram, and that thing is smooth as butter. Even more so now it's running the OS from an NVME M.2.

One person shouldn't have 5 computers, right? @Caution

@DJDarren @tootbrute @Caution
Five computers doesn't seem excessive. One with a large screen for movies in the living room, a laptop for vacations, a records and bookkeeping station, two to play BSD emulations on (32 bit and 64 bit.)
I had more, before, but these are the ones that give me joy.

@quoidian One of mine spends 99% of its life on my desk at work, open and running InputLeap so I can fiddle with it without having to switch keyboard and mouse. I'm not even using it.

But I might.

@tootbrute @Caution

@DJDarren @tootbrute @Caution

Quite right. Five is far too few.

@Walrus @DJDarren @tootbrute If we count dead laptops that are gonna get fixed/ripped for parts, then we’re gonna have to re-address that initial number..

@Caution @DJDarren @tootbrute

I have withdrawal symptoms for the ten Raspberry Ξ  machines I have mothballed, as we are about to move, some time.

@DJDarren @tootbrute @Caution The quality of programming in a lot of OSes and production software has really gone downhill over the past decade. It used to be that developers had to take care to use as little resources as possible to squeeze the most performance out of everything, and now they don't try to do any of that because they assume you have a massive amount of resources at all times.

Doesn't matter if your computer is a Mac, Windows, or what have you. My gaming laptop will start running the fans at full speed when I launch Word or Advice PDF reader

@jhooper I distinctly remember my 2011 Macbook Pro being whisper quiet when I first bought it brand new. By the time I gave up using macOS on it the fan was at full throttle all the time. Running MX Linux now, and I can't hear the fan at all.

Make of that what you will. @tootbrute @Caution

@DJDarren @jhooper @tootbrute @Caution That’s Intel processors, though. Even the new ones ramp up the fans all the time.