Charlie Stross4d ago

If your corporation's business model relies on lawbreaking, your corporation has no legal legitimacy.

We don't let narcotic cartels and trafficking rings list themselves on the stock exchange: why should OpenAI or Facebook be any different?

Show threadJohn Cook4d ago
@cstross I'm quite sure the AI companies would squeal like stuck pigs if others were just to take their work without permission/ payment.
Show threadMycotropic4d ago

@jmc @cstross

Didn't that happen under a year ago? I thought there were a few Chinese AI bots released that relied on stealing existing architecture from US companies. Did that not happen?

Show threadstaringatclouds

@mycotropic @jmc @cstross

Yes Deepseek "distilled" (aka "stole") data from ChatGPT

And the people who acquired without asking permission (aka "stole") ChatGPT's training data in the first place are upset about it

While carefully avoiding any mention of copyright of course

https://theconversation.com/openai-says-deepseek-inappropriately-copied-chatgpt-but-its-facing-copyright-claims-too-248863

OpenAI says DeepSeek ‘inappropriately’ copied ChatGPT – but it’s facing copyright claims too

The upside to this war of words? More competition is boosting consumer choice, including with OpenAI’s release over the weekend of a new AI model, o3-mini.

The Conversation
May 24 at 2:43pmWeb
Show threadalcinnz3d ago

@staringatclouds @mycotropic @jmc @cstross I've got reason to doubt that DeepSeek was "distilled" from ChatGPT, since I trust my fellow sysadmins who had remarked on experiencing Chinese DDOS more than I trust either OpenAI or their Chinese counterpart.

But that is the claim OpenAI made.